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Old 07-06-2007, 03:09 PM   #1
Anton Emery
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I am curious what everyone thinks about strength standards for BJJ/Grappling. I can't do a double BW deadlift, which seems to be a standard i hear alot. On Rippetoe's Barbell standards i fall into Novice in most of the categories. My main goal when exercising is to improve my BJJ, but it would also be nice to bring my lifts up. I want to be a trainer eventually, so i think having a decent measure of strength is probably good.

I practice BJJ 3-4 times a week, and i am wondering if doing a ME Black Box type method will be ok. I dont want to burn myself out.


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Old 07-06-2007, 08:41 PM   #2
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I have been submitted by guys half my size and half my strength. When I was training, technique was stressed above strength and trying to "overpower" your opponent. In MMA and striking and judo, strength is crucial, but if you are just rolling, I don't think you need to put a lot of stress on it. I think you need to be more concerned with cardio and muscular performance from an endurance standpoint. You need to have the muscle endurance to be able to lock in a good guard-to hold a triangle without your legs getting weak after a few seconds, especially if you are well into a round of sparring.
You need to be explosive, so heavy lifting and going for bulk can be detrimental. I started CF because I wanted it to improve my BJJ game, and I think it has. The problem is, I am no longer a spring chicken, and I had to set new goals.I want to be fit and healthy above all else, and since I am too old to roll on the ground and fight people in a cage, I had to put the BJJ on hold. But I noticed a big difference in my endurance when I was training BJJ and CF'ing at the same time.
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:23 AM   #3
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Thanks for the input. Thats more or less along the lines towards what i am feeling. I think muscular endurance and sub maximal isometric strength is probably the most important. When i am on someone's back i am not thinking how i wish i could bench and squat more, i am just trying to hold on even though my muscles are burning. I think having more maximal strength definitely can't hurt, i will just be careful how often i do a maximal strength workout. Probably once a week at most.


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Old 07-07-2007, 10:09 AM   #4
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AedOaOes77c

Technique beats strength

May not be work family safe.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:29 AM   #5
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Thats an inspiring video. DeSouza is about my size. Guess i need to work on being more technical.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:47 PM   #6
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I agree that technique beats size. However, If you arent lifting heavy you arent Crossfitting. Just do the WOD's and continue traininig BJJ. You can have it all.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:08 AM   #7
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Matt's right.

Technique beats strength.

Technique + strength beats technique.
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:49 AM   #8
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I agree with Gant. Everything equal the strongest will win.

And Rich you can never be too old to roll on the ground.

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Old 07-23-2007, 01:42 PM   #9
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Thanks, Bobby....I roll on the ground still- it's just harder to get back up! :yawn:
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