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Old 12-01-2010, 09:23 PM   #1
Jordan Riley McClintock
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Deadhang Pullups

Aren't they the best?
I love them.
I have been training them hard lately, pretty high volume daily. I do them any chance I get.
I have not noticed any negative effects on my other training, do you think this could be a problem in the long run?
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Old 12-01-2010, 10:43 PM   #2
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Re: Deadhang Pullups

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Aren't they the best?
I love them.
I have been training them hard lately, pretty high volume daily. I do them any chance I get.
I have not noticed any negative effects on my other training, do you think this could be a problem in the long run?

I like and think dead hang pull ups are better. i think the kip and butterfly pull ups are used to speed and people that dont have the strength to do a hang pull up.

I actually do dead hangs for the CF warm up
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:28 PM   #3
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Re: Deadhang Pullups

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Aren't they the best?
I love them.
I have been training them hard lately, pretty high volume daily. I do them any chance I get.
I have not noticed any negative effects on my other training, do you think this could be a problem in the long run?
No way of knowing without more information about what your other training is and what your goals are.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:16 AM   #4
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Re: Deadhang Pullups

on a tangential note

Prior to kipping chinups, i couldn't do a proper strict chinup. I thought i was doing them well, but in retrospect I didn't have the strength to fully extend my arms at the bottom or get my chin well over the bar at the top of the movement

Kipping for a few months helped develop the stregth so that I can now do strict dead hangs with a very full ROM. Of course, i have now switched back to non-kipping almost exclusively
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Old 12-02-2010, 02:42 PM   #5
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Re: Deadhang Pullups

Like most question regarding "best" the answer depends. I'm learning to do kipping pull-ups at my affiliate but at my home gym the ceiling is 7' so Iíll always do dead hang (w/ bent knees or "L") there.
There is definitely a speed advantage but to characterize it as something
for people who don't have the strength for regular pull-ups is simply untrue. Most athletes that can do a buttload of kipping pull-ups can also do a buttload of dead hang.
I'm waiting for some of the pull-up intensive WODs to come up so I can smash my PR's by kipping.
Be mindful of your shoulders and elbows doing full ROM dead hangs.
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Old 12-02-2010, 03:12 PM   #6
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Re: Deadhang Pullups

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Like most question regarding "best" the answer depends. I'm learning to do kipping pull-ups at my affiliate but at my home gym the ceiling is 7' so Iíll always do dead hang (w/ bent knees or "L") there.
There is definitely a speed advantage but to characterize it as something
for people who don't have the strength for regular pull-ups is simply untrue. Most athletes that can do a buttload of kipping pull-ups can also do a buttload of dead hang.
I'm waiting for some of the pull-up intensive WODs to come up so I can smash my PR's by kipping.
Be mindful of your shoulders and elbows doing full ROM dead hangs.
I would that the SOME people who can do a buttload of kipping pull ups can do the same with deadhang but not most. I would reverse it and say if you can do a buttload of deadhang than you have the strength to do kipping. There are people who kip because they cannot deadhang not the other way around.

Jordan, I would continue to them as you wish. I doubt this will be a negative on your training.
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Old 12-02-2010, 03:54 PM   #7
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Re: Deadhang Pullups

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There are people who kip because they cannot deadhang not the other way around.
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Sorry, some people (myself included) can do dead hang pull-ups but cannot kip but it's not for lack of strength it's lack of technique. I'm learning, but for now it's this abortion of a kip up and a retarded drop into dead hang a swing and a kip up....
I'd rather have the strength to do lots of dead hang AND the ability to kip for big sets.

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Old 12-02-2010, 09:17 PM   #8
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Sorry, some people (myself included) can do dead hang pull-ups but cannot kip but it's not for lack of strength it's lack of technique. I'm learning, but for now it's this abortion of a kip up and a retarded drop into dead hang a swing and a kip up....
I'd rather have the strength to do lots of dead hang AND the ability to kip for big sets.

If strength were everything a bull could catch a rabbit
I agree with you. My point was deadhang requires strength and many people who cannot deadhang kip for that reason. Both have there place but just because someone has a kip does not men they have deadhang. Kipping for sure is technique also, I don't think it is strength based.
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Old 12-03-2010, 03:10 AM   #9
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Re: Deadhang Pullups

I've been alternating bodyweight to failure with weighted pull ups that cause failure at 5 reps.

I used kipping for "Jackie" after not having done any for quite some time and was still able to do them fairly well.

It's must be like learning to ride a bike, I had mucho trouble learning the kip but once I did now it seems like something I'll never forget how to do.
So I don't feel the need to alternate kipping with deadhang.

It seems to me that kipping works MUCH better for metcon, dead hang are better for developing strength.
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Old 12-04-2010, 02:11 PM   #10
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Re: Deadhang Pullups

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