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Old 06-09-2011, 05:33 PM   #1
Evan Peikon
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staying lean without conditioning

Quick question:j I'm currentley doing 531 as a stregbth program and know I would make better gains without conditioning. However I do not want to bulk up or gain fat. Is it possible to just do powerlifting with body weight assistance excercises and some high rep assistance work and still stay lean even without conditioning.
Do any of you have ecxperience with doing strictly stregnth work without getting fat
My ratios are 60f,20pn20c but I can cut my fruit down if that would help
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Old 06-09-2011, 05:57 PM   #2
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Re: staying lean without conditioning

You've had a lot of good advice given to you multiple times in multiple threads and have seemingly ignored the majority of it...I wouldn't expect much more.
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Old 06-09-2011, 06:07 PM   #3
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Re: staying lean without conditioning

+1 to what David said, it's like we are talking to a brick wall. If I remember right you are 5'9 125lbs, I wouldn't worry about getting fat even if you put on 35lbs while lifting heavy. Lifting heavy means a linear progression program, NOT 5/3/1. Insulin is anabolic, don't limit carbs, they are your friend when gaining muscle/weight. Here's how to limit fat gain: do a linear progression program with a bunch of good whole food and some junk thrown in if you can't eat enough clean food. Linear progression programs are more taxing and provide more of a stimulus to build muscle compared to 5/3/1 so more of what you eat will be used for recovery and growth as opposed to fat gain. But like I said, you will not get fat since you are so underweight.
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Old 06-09-2011, 06:23 PM   #4
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Re: staying lean without conditioning

What would it take for you to listen to any of the advice given to you in any of the previous threads you've started? Have you even read up on the programs whose names you're tossing around? I looked back at one of your posts where you talked about how your homemade 5/3/1 plus conditioning was "essentially SS."

As has been noted, you are 5'9" and 125lbs yet you say you don't want to bulk up and are worried about getting fat if you gain a little weight. There's nothing we can do for you if that's the case, aside from maybe suggesting you switch to the Tracy Anderson Method.
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Old 06-09-2011, 06:32 PM   #5
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Re: staying lean without conditioning

Well, if you're not bothering to heed advice given to you, and it sounds like that's the case, I think I can offer a plan:

1. Invest in a shake weight.
2. Sign up for a Zumba class.
3. Embark on a 30 day pineapple juice fast.

You can thank me later.
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:27 PM   #6
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Re: staying lean without conditioning

evan do you wrestle or any other weight class sport? why the insistence on remaining 5'9 125 lbs? i was a hard gainer in HS and i still worked up to 160 by 17, i could never imagine being 125 lbs and not wanting to gain any mass. i hated being small and light and tried everything to grow at your age, (besides steroids). not saying you have to get huge but you can certainly get to 160 and still be very mobile and quick. i was 160 in the marines and had no issue with a 300 pft (20 pull ups, 80 situps, and sub 18 minute 3 mile).
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Old 06-09-2011, 07:35 PM   #7
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Re: staying lean without conditioning

Doesn't anyone know of the concept of the internet forum troll? If what you are saying is true he HAS to be one, no?
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:43 PM   #8
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Re: staying lean without conditioning

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Doesn't anyone know of the concept of the internet forum troll? If what you are saying is true he HAS to be one, no?
Well given the fact that he has been answered in another thread and then post this I would say it is rather obvious.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:02 PM   #9
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:42 PM   #10
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Re: staying lean without conditioning

He's 5'9" and 135 according to an earlier post. That's about 60kg. You are considerably taller than most lightweight boxers and most of them would normally be at a heavier training body weight than you.
Anyhoo, if you don't want to bulk up go do whatever it is that skinny kids do.
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