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Old 05-14-2009, 12:22 AM   #1
Mary Ann Cayabyab
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Changes in Kip?

basically, I never noticed that I've been kipping 'weird' until a buddy of mine filmed me doing some pull ups... I'm definitely getting higher numbers but it just looks inefficient, and frankly, not pretty.

this is a video back in November (I had just gotten the kip in Sept.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4s2c2wwKaM (wfs)


and here I am, just a few days ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnmApELM_2A (wfs)

I wasn't even aware that I've been keeping my knees up at the top .. not quite sure when this started.
I haven't seen anyone else (for *real* or in video) kip like this.

any comments? going back to the 'normal' kip just feels a little unnatural, now. Weird! :/

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Old 05-14-2009, 01:07 AM   #2
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Re: Changes in Kip?

I've seen the keeping-the-knees-up thing with most beginners. Telling people to focus on kicking themselves up usually fixes it. It's weird how you seem to have developed that habit later on instead of at the beginning...

What's bothering me more than the knees, though, is how you stop at the top before going back down. You should work on pushing yourself back away from the bar as soon as you get your chin over the bar.
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:53 AM   #3
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Re: Changes in Kip?

I thought they looked fine, just a little loose, like you let yourself relax too much on the way down. Try doing them while keeping your abs a little tighter and not flailing so much and see how it feels
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Old 05-14-2009, 12:09 PM   #4
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Re: Changes in Kip?

Check out K-Starr's Crossfit Journal article about midline stabilization and the pullup. You're getting a lot of power, but if you kept it tighter, you'd probably be more efficient.
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Old 05-16-2009, 10:17 AM   #5
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Re: Changes in Kip?

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Check out K-Starr's Crossfit Journal article about midline stabilization and the pullup. You're getting a lot of power, but if you kept it tighter, you'd probably be more efficient.
Second this.

Flailing your legs around may feel like it helps, but you're really just wasting energy. Once you keep them tight with good transmission of power through your core you'll find that they'll be much easier.
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Old 05-21-2009, 04:36 PM   #6
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Re: Changes in Kip?

Yup, keep the belly tighter and fully open the hips. You're shorting that which means you're not getting as much oomph out of the hips as you could.

I second the K-star vids, and also check out the Boz series on kipping pull-ups to see what I mean about shorting the hips.
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:37 AM   #7
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Yup, keep the belly tighter and fully open the hips. You're shorting that which means you're not getting as much oomph out of the hips as you could.

I second the K-star vids, and also check out the Boz series on kipping pull-ups to see what I mean about shorting the hips.

Where can I find these videos?
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:16 AM   #8
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Re: Changes in Kip?

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Where can I find these videos?
CF Journal and "Demos and Exercises" on the main page both have kipping videos.
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:27 AM   #9
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Re: Changes in Kip?

I just started doing kipping pullups but i have no idea if i do the same thing or not. I must video tape them soon. My best advice and thing I will do my self is forget about the "ordinary kippin pullup" and learn the "butterfly pullup" so much less energy consumption, so much faster, less over the place. There amazing just watch.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEUxEo5_7hY
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its propably gona be a lot harder to learn but so much faster.
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:39 AM   #10
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Re: Changes in Kip?

Faster yes, less energy? NO. BFK requires more oomph from you, less mechanical advantage then the full swinging kip. But that's the price you pay to speed up the reps right?
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