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Old 07-26-2008, 08:55 AM   #1
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Has my squat improved?

Picture below of side by side comparsion of my squat after 20 days of SS. I think it has gotten better...not perfect but better. My head looks a little down. Is it getting better or is it just wishful thinking?
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:05 AM   #2
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Re: Has my squat improved?

Much, much better. The femur in the second picture is pretty much parallel with the ground and the hip crease is about the same level as the knee - that is how deep you need to go every time as a minimum, and work yourself deeper as your squat matures.

The first picture is basically a 1/2 squat, the second picture is very much improved.
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:46 AM   #3
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Re: Has my squat improved?

also pay attention to how much your knees go in front of your toes, ideally they should not pass vertical line drawn from your toes up. Second picture is much better in that sense. It seems like you have some butt wink on the first picture. second one is much better. no doubt...
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:57 PM   #4
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Re: Has my squat improved?

Head position looks fine in that picture.

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also pay attention to how much your knees go in front of your toes, ideally they should not pass vertical line drawn from your toes up.
Thats actually not true for the Low bar back squat prescribed in Starting Strength. The knee should be just slightly foward of the toes, maybe only an inch or so though depending on athropometry. But i agree that in the first picture the knees are too far and in the second picture it looks great.

Really I would get a video up though as that is going to be much more beneficial for seeing problems. Even a cell phone video works well enough even if the resolution is not the best

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Old 07-26-2008, 02:30 PM   #5
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Re: Has my squat improved?

Thanks for all the comments. I have a video, that's how I got the picture. I'll post it.
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Old 07-26-2008, 02:40 PM   #6
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Re: Has my squat improved?

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Old 07-26-2008, 02:59 PM   #7
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Re: Has my squat improved?

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Head position looks fine in that picture.



Thats actually not true for the Low bar back squat prescribed in Starting Strength. The knee should be just slightly foward of the toes, maybe only an inch or so though depending on athropometry. But i agree that in the first picture the knees are too far and in the second picture it looks great.

Really I would get a video up though as that is going to be much more beneficial for seeing problems. Even a cell phone video works well enough even if the resolution is not the best

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You are right Robert... I personally do not like placing the bar too low and my shins stay close to vertical during whole cycle.
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Old 07-26-2008, 03:41 PM   #8
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Re: Has my squat improved?

1- ditch the belt

2- deeper.
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Old 07-26-2008, 04:15 PM   #9
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Re: Has my squat improved?

Your knees tend to come forward a bit at the bottom. Focus on shoving them out to the side. That might also make it a little easier to get the depth a little lower.
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Old 07-26-2008, 04:20 PM   #10
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You are right Robert... I personally do not like placing the bar too low and my shins stay close to vertical during whole cycle.
Actually if you've got the bar higher, your knees will come farther forward. An even lower-bar, powerlifting style squat with an extra wide stance might result in knees that don't come past the toes.
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