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Old 09-10-2004, 11:53 AM   #1
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I was at the Braemar Highland Games this weekend and was really impressed at the athletes taking part in the throwing events. I am interested in reading up on their training and wondered if anyone could recommend some good links on the internet. I know a lot of guys training Crossfit compete.
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Old 09-10-2004, 11:57 AM   #2
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Try the archives at
http://pub208.ezboard.com/fbulkandpower48873frm13
These guys are good and most take a "balanced" approach. Also, there is some of this stuff at http://danjohn.org/coach
but the guy who runs the place is a jerk.
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Old 09-10-2004, 12:12 PM   #3
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Couple more:

http://www.nasgaweb.com/main.asp

http://www.myschoolonline.com/site/0,1876,1215-197744-1-89144,00.html

http://www.uhatv.com

You're going to laugh, but there's something almost ballerina-like about guys who turn really well. Just don't tell them they would look good in a tutu. Hell, they're in skirts, so they've got issues already.

Seriously, it's all about balance and timing. I'm as strong or stronger than most of the guys who kick my butt. The best guys seem to squat (off-season) 500 or more, Snatch at least 200, and Bench at least 350, from what I can tell. But those lifts won't make you a good thrower. They just create the POTENTIAL to throw well.

Dan's been kicking some ***, so definitely check out his site.

Everyone should try and turn a caber at least once in their life.

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Old 09-10-2004, 03:39 PM   #4
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Scotts unite!!! Do they have a short, skinny guy division?
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Old 09-10-2004, 05:23 PM   #5
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Robb,

You're a tough guy. Somehow I think you'd do ah'ight. Quite honestly, I suck royally, but I have fun. I'm doing one tomorrow, and if I were to toss the 56 25 ft., I'd be pleased as punch.

I do think they have weight classes out west, though. Seriously, cabers are intimidating as hell the first time you do them. That's what makes it fun. I've mostly got the pick figured out; now I'm trying to get the throw figured out. Hopefully they'll have some light ones tomorrow, like they did last year: somewhere around 80 lb. and 12 ft, for the first one, which is very turnable.

For reference' sake, I'm German, Polish, Irish, Scotch, French and English, as far as I can tell. Cooper was Kuepfer until they hit Ellis.

If you can stomach McEwan's or Glenfiddich, you're good.

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Old 09-12-2004, 10:03 AM   #6
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Thanks for the posts, they were just what I was after. Going to have to go throwing my kettlebell around the park this week!
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Old 09-12-2004, 02:23 PM   #7
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Ok...I want to give this stuff a shot. Unfortunately i am alergic to oats, so no haggus for me!
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Old 09-12-2004, 02:48 PM   #8
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Robb,
You mean your going to give the games a try, not Scottish food right? or were you refering to the Glenfiddich.
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:51 AM   #9
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Robb,

They had a 190 and under weight class in the games I just did, and if you're getting close to 300 in the C&J, I think you would have won it pretty handily. That's a good lift for a big boy (it's more than I can manage, and I have like 50 pounds on you), much less someone under 200 pounds.

I think CrossFit is fine for GPP. Try and get some weights to practice, if you can. Here is another excellent site: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/8682/heavy/equip.htm

One thing I would add is barbell plates with handles on them (like they sell at Wal-Mart) can be used as well. That's what I use to practice my 28.

Here is another site with some good drills that are intermediate between formal throwing and gym work: http://www.throwfarther.org/training/puds/

I think you'll kick some ***. Also, no reason not to mix some Glennfiddich in there too. They had nice flask of Drambuie at this last one they were passing around.

Fish,

I have a 2 pood kettlebell, and I thought it would really help my throwing, but it didn't. The trajectory is different. Again, I think CrossFit will give you all the strength you need, just get some actual weights and throw them.
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