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Old 02-07-2010, 01:58 AM   #41
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

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Wasn't this the lift that Alexander Karelin credited a majority of his success against larger opponents to?
He Zerchered 440# for 10 reps
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:13 AM   #42
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

Dunno about the guys form in the vid looks a bit ropey to me.....but isnt the concept similar to lifting atlas stones which strongman Kurtis in the CFJ talked about? The spine isnt in ideal position and yet Kurtis never observed a injury during lifts.....he also mentioned the weight is usually far less then barbell 1RMs....
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:03 AM   #43
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

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Dunno about the guys form in the vid looks a bit ropey to me.....but isnt the concept similar to lifting atlas stones which strongman Kurtis in the CFJ talked about? The spine isnt in ideal position and yet Kurtis never observed a injury during lifts.....he also mentioned the weight is usually far less then barbell 1RMs....
Just because you don't observe injury "during" a lift, doesn't mean that injury hasn't occurred.

See Delayed onset muscle soreness, or more severe cases where someone falls and hits there head, gets up, talks fine, walks around, then doesn't wake up the next morning.
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

I wouldn't see it being a problem long as the weight is kept extremely light till form is exceptional.

We need to get away from the attitude of "never flex the spine." While its not a great idea to round your lower back in a squat or deadlift, some exercises like good mornings, straight leg deadlifts, and atlas stones can involve some spinal flexion. These exercises are generally done much lighter than the squat or deadlift, and when proper technique is taught to a healthy individual, the injury risk is low.

Just like walking on your feet in multiple ways can help with overall ankle mobility/flexibility, its a good thing to train all planes of movement for optimal spinal health. The key is gradual(and I do mean gradual) progression.
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

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He Zerchered 440# for 10 reps
That's insane! No wonder he could easily toss guys weighing in the 300's. If BJJ gave points for slams like Greco I'd be doing these all the time.
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