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Old 06-25-2008, 09:09 AM   #1
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pirouettes vs. the floor

Hey guys, I was just wondering if any of you find it easier to hold handstands on pirouettes vs. doing it on the floor?

This seems to be the case with me as I can now hold a handstand for almost a minute on pirouettes but struggle for 10 or so seconds on the floor...

Steven, any answers as to why this is so? Or suggestions other then just doing them? lol..
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:15 AM   #2
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Re: pirouettes vs. the floor

Steven is gone sir. Sorry.

I find it easier to do almost any movement on paralletes (if that's what you meant) as opposed to the floor. I think the reason is that it's much easier on the wrists and less tiring for the forearms.
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Re: pirouettes vs. the floor

Thats kinda what I was thinking. But my wrists don't tire out on the floor. For some reason I just feel generally more balanced on the pirouettes.

Was just wondering if this was the case for a lot of people.

Also I'd like to work on pressing to handstand with the pirouettes (just starting with my hands on the bars and controlling my body into the handstand instead of using my legs to kick up). Does anyone know any good progression exercises to help me with this? The leavers seem to help me a little bit with the stability part of it, but I was wondering if there was anything else I could practice to help.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:45 AM   #4
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Re: pirouettes vs. the floor

Anthony you may have missed Matt's paranthetical statement's meaning.

The nomenclature is PARALLETTE vice Pirouette...a pirouette is a circular movement done on your feet or hands.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:47 AM   #5
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Re: pirouettes vs. the floor

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Thats kinda what I was thinking. But my wrists don't tire out on the floor. For some reason I just feel generally more balanced on the pirouettes.

Was just wondering if this was the case for a lot of people.

Also I'd like to work on pressing to handstand with the pirouettes (just starting with my hands on the bars and controlling my body into the handstand instead of using my legs to kick up). Does anyone know any good progression exercises to help me with this? The leavers seem to help me a little bit with the stability part of it, but I was wondering if there was anything else I could practice to help.
I've been told you want flexibility in the pike/straddle pike to achieve the press to handstand. You have to be able to pull your hips to directly above your shoulders.

You can also work negatives by kicking up against the wall into a handstand, straddling your legs out, and then slowly bringing them down to the floor.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:56 AM   #6
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Re: paralletes vs. the floor

Aushion, thanks for the correction oopz...

Also thank you for the idea, for some reason the idea of negatives slipped my mind.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:19 PM   #7
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Re: pirouettes vs. the floor

A handstand on parallettes is far easier than on floor. Has nothing to do with wrist fatigue. It is because it creates a much larger base for the support. When you are on the floor your base is from the heel of your hand to the tip of your middle finger. If you're not leaning over your fingers properly it's even less. When you are on parallettes your base is the entire base of the parallettes (given enough grip and wrist strength). When on full size parallel bars you can be WAY off your handstand and save it if you are strong enough because you have this massive base to work with.

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http://www.drillsandskills.com/article/16
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:38 PM   #8
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Re: pirouettes vs. the floor

That makes sense about the support base. I've never reall done handstands on the parallettes too much. Mostly tuck planches. That's why I brought up the wrist thing. Is it valid there or is it still mostly a matter of larger support base?
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Re: pirouettes vs. the floor

Planches can be different in that the wrist angle is pretty severe, so flexiblity is the primary issue on floor. You do need to take care about forearm splints on parallettes though.
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Old 06-25-2008, 03:09 PM   #10
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Re: pirouettes vs. the floor

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Steven is gone sir. Sorry.
What???!!! Did I miss something?

Edit: okay, answered my own question via the search function as Steven would've done.
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