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Old 09-22-2005, 09:44 AM   #1
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I started the Zone on Tuesday, upon return from the recent CF Seminar. Today my performance is really suffering. On a workout consisting of Deadlift x 12, 400m, Deadlift x12, 400m, Deadlift x12, my time is up by 2 full minutes.
Does this mean that I am now into the difficult transition from carb burner to fat burner? Is there any way to speed this process up, such as going lower on carbs as in the Atkins induction phase?
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:18 AM   #2
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Why would you be transfering from a carb burner to fat burner; the zone is 40 carb/30protein/30fat.
Are you remembering to subtract the fiber quantity out of the carb count?
Maybe you were tired?
Perhaps you're under-recovered?
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:24 PM   #3
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I could still be tired from the seminar. I definitely smoked myself pretty good out there. As of yesterday I was still very sore.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I understood that the Zone, despite the carbs, shifted your muscle metabolism to primarily burning fat rather than glycogen. That is what Atkins and NHE claim to do.

Some years back I tried Atkins while training for a half marathon. I went through a period of adjustment where performance suffered, then got better than before. I surmised that the muscle metabolism was shifting gears from carbs to fat, and that the transition caused temporary performance loss, and that I might have a similar experience in the Zone.
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:51 PM   #4
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I could still be tired from the seminar
You went to the seminar? That'll answer your question for you. I've never been but I've heard stories and seen videos.

Actualy I think you're right in that the zone make fat your primary macro-calorie, especialy if you incrase the fat as per the athletes Zone.
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:15 AM   #5
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Hi Dan-

It is possible that you are tired from the seminar. You are also in the "transition period" of the diet. It can be difficult and often feels worse before it feels better. Give it time. Be sure your blocks are right and that your fat intake is appropriate to your leanness. Other than that two days is not long enough to judge or change anything.

After a few weeks if there is no improvement we start trouble shooting.

Also lowering your carb intake will only give you less energy for the workouts.
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Old 10-02-2005, 05:35 PM   #6
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Nicole,

This Monday will be two weeks zoning. So far everything is going as everyone says, plus Jeff and Mikki won't let me slide. My questions is how do I know that 17 blks is good for me? How do I fine tune the number of blks?
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Old 10-02-2005, 09:17 PM   #7
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Dan-
What is your height, weight and activity level? Also give a guesstimate on your body fat %
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Old 10-05-2005, 05:00 PM   #8
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5'11, 178lbs, activity level pretty high. Body fat 16%??
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Old 10-05-2005, 06:53 PM   #9
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Hi Dan- Sorry to be a pain in the butt, but what do you mean by pretty high? Do you do the WOD regularly plus other workouts?

17 may be high unless your activity level is super high. Otherwise 15 - 16 may be better.
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Old 10-06-2005, 06:35 AM   #10
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Nicole,
Responding to your Sept 24 post

This Dan is 6', 172, BF% ~19% by caliper and Zone calculator

For last 10 days I'm doing the WODs instead of Beginner's weight routine. I have recovered from the seminar, and I think from the transition to the Zone. Getting through the WODs fairly well now, except when it hits my upper body weaknesses, like yesterday.
Have been Zoning at 15 blocks, 1x fat, since the seminar, but the calculator says I should do 18. That seems high.
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