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Old 12-30-2005, 08:45 PM   #11
Adam C Lautenschlager
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:Crossfit DC: we put the F-U in fun!:

In the military, we require the upper arm to be paralell to the ground for a rep to count, and also to go to lockout each rep. But I've seen people get 100+ who were BS'ing reps.

FWIW I think it's best to do full range work and "score" less on the WOD's
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:56 PM   #12
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Agreed Garrett and Adam...IMO solid form must come first (and be maintained).
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:35 PM   #13
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Now I'm thinking I should shoot for the Guinness pullup record, as I've determined I can bounce an inch or so up and down each second nearly continually for a minute straight.

Just think of all that "wasted" effort I've been putting myself and other NYC CF'ers through by insisting on full ROM!
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Old 12-31-2005, 08:23 AM   #14
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But it's hard to bash Guinness, when their beverages are so tasty...
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Old 12-31-2005, 08:44 AM   #15
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James--the only kind of video that requires IE to view are the ones put on MSN.com, natch!

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Old 12-31-2005, 08:50 AM   #16
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Joe,
There are people everywhere with bad form. Pushups are often a culprit, that's why the CFJ did a whole article on them. Many, many people don't have others to watch them and correct form as they do half-reps or "non-specific muscle spasms". Dips are another big culprit. While I do believe that CFers care about form more than the typical gym rat and Guinness record holders, if form falls second to time & power output, I judge that the musculoskeletal system will suffer eventually and that the full range of motion we love so much often becomes compromised to serve our highest priority. That's all, I did not mean to bash CFers, I also did not mean to state that we as a community are immune to human patterns.

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Old 01-03-2006, 05:29 AM   #17
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That's not even half an Army pushup...fingertips or not. Sheesh how is that a record?
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Old 01-03-2006, 12:13 PM   #18
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mmmmm....guiness.....mmmmm
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Old 01-03-2006, 02:58 PM   #19
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He was almost doing the worm.

His feet weren't even together.

I would be interested in seeing some of our push up all-stars try this according to the same standards.





I believe that strict form is the most important at the begining of a set, but 'some' loss of form is acceptable when going for higher intensity (such as during a Tabata). When you call yourself out due to incomplete form is up to the individual. For some people, they would have a hard time doing 10 push ups with strict, full ROM, push ups in a row - let alone doing 100 plus in a workout. Starting with perfect form in mind and finishing with intensity and power kills two birds with one stone.

Being a slave to any single mode of training (form, speed, power etc) will limit progression, and present a plateau for which trudging through can be more difficult than surmounting any definable obstacle.
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Old 01-10-2006, 08:52 PM   #20
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When I set to do a high volume / high intensity session, I will not continue an exercise beyond the point where I can perform it cleanly with good form. There's little to gain and much greater chance of injury from trying to force bad reps just to meet a desired numeric goal. Next time I go for it, I just try to improve my output of high-quality effort. I'll get there inevitably, without getting hurt in the process.
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