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Old 12-03-2008, 01:54 PM   #11
Jason Lopez-Ota
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Re: Need Security Advice

Moving is a hassle. Don't go on a power-trip with your gun. You can go to jail just as easily as them.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:12 PM   #12
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Re: Need Security Advice

So is recovery from serious burn injury.
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:18 PM   #13
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So is recovery from serious burn injury.
True. I think the original poster should ask police or a someone that knows the laws for advice.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:55 PM   #14
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Re: Need Security Advice

hahah you cant be serious about moving. I will not have someone run me outta my own house, even if i did move they find out were i lived if it was someone i ****ed off. And if you haven't been watching the news i dont think i could sell this house with the economy how it is even if i wanted too.
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:14 AM   #15
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Andrew,
The situation you describe is thus: Someone unknown is trying to kill me, I can't fight back legally, and the Police can't help. I think moving is a viable option. I understand how that could feel like running away, being a pansy or whatever, but that's pride and ego. I hope the security system works.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:59 AM   #16
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Shoot him in the face... legally. Seriously, your life is more important to you than his. This is the very basis of moral law and property rights. You have the right to defend yourself and your property. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_DoctrinePLEASE ENSURE YOU ANNOTATE ALL LINKS WHETHER WORK AND FAMILY SAFE.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/SB00378F.htPLEASE ENSURE YOU ANNOTATE ALL LINKS WHETHER WORK AND FAMILY SAFE.m

Using explosives on your house can be construed as arson. If your house is on fire and you do not leave it may kill you: murder/attempted murder (Section 2.a.1.C). If you leave your house because explosives are being launched at it or burning, then they are attempting to unlawfully force from your house (Section 2.a.1.B)

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Old 12-04-2008, 11:56 AM   #17
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Andrew...the last thing you should have to do is move because of some idiots. I wouldn't go shooting anyone either, unless of course the situation was genuinely life threatening and it was your ONLY option...do you think you could cope with living the rest of your life knowing you shot someone? What if you run out the house and shoot the wrong person, it wouldn't be the first time some innocent person is gunned down, wrong place, wrong time......

I dont know the laws in the U.S, or your state for that matter however if your in any doubt as to what you can do legally, seek advice from a professional.

I'm a cop in scotland, where only the bad guys and specially trained officers carry guns....I'd advise you to speak to a lawyer re how far you can go in defense of your property...also make a point to go into your local police office and ask if there is anyone who can advise you on home safety/defense....We have a community safety dept who specialise in this and chances are the cops who attended your property didn't know the procedures or correct advice to give so fobbed you off.....it happens a lot, trust me......Calls are also prioritised, so your call would tumble down the list if there were more serious calls to attend so you can end up waiting forever for the cops to come to you.....SO GO TO THEM. Being in the job I joke that I wouldn't phone the police for anything less than a murder.

I'd also try contacting your local politician, not sure if you have local councillors etc however over here they are a pain in the a** and the bosses at the office tend to put patrols by houses etc to placate them, its extra (legitimate) pressure to help get you a result.....You need to know how to make the system work for you......

Also keep a log of the incidents, dates times etc so you can evidence the abuse, particularly if your going to involve politicians, its better to be precise and be able to give dates etc than just saying this has happend 5 time now etc...

Does your property have a wall at the front, or surrounded by fencing...do you have jaggy (scots term for prickly) bushes around the borderline of the property......these measures are used by house builders to add security, its called secure by design, try looking it up on the net.

If all of the above fails I do personally know of someone who was getting much of the same as you are....they got a bunch of mates around to their house, everyone took a golf club and when the a**holes returned they were given a bleaching and told not to come back.....worked a treat!!!! However I would never condone such action.....

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Old 12-04-2008, 12:06 PM   #18
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Heck no, No one should have to move. If your other choice is waiting in ambush for him with a shotgun, pretty much guaranteeing you have to sell it to cover your lawyer's fees, though, now what?
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:35 AM   #19
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Years ago in the bad old days, I used to receive regular death threats in the mail. Pictures of Hiroshima corpses, letters stating how good I'd look with a soviet jackboot on my head, etc. Through a dumb coincidence I suddenly had a very good idea who was sending them. The police took all the letters and went to visit the suspect. I never got another one.

If you have decent reason to name a suspect, name him. In my case, one visit by the police was enough to stop him.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:14 PM   #20
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Killing somebody is a big deal. He has family and friends just like you and you are talking about making enemies. How many more enemies will you make if you shoot the guy? Have you had training? Will you miss and shoot into someone else's house? I say consult someone that knows the laws for advice. Killing someone should be your last resort.
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