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Old 10-04-2007, 04:58 PM   #21
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Re: The argument over the merit of CF on bodybuilding.com

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You "best take" another look at about 90% of the Crossfit population. Despite what the "hierarchy of muscle building" in the FAQ may say, CrossFit is not superior to bodybuilding for pure hypertrophy.
Debatable.. depending on where the person is coming from and their training program.

It's obviously not going to produce outrageous hypertrophy like you see in the heavyweights, but a few people from CF would probably place if they did lightweight/middleweights and dieted off all of their fat.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:03 PM   #22
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I'm not sure we can add beginners into the mix, because all they have to do is look at a weight to grow. A program centered around doing the WOD or even doing a significant number of metcon workouts isn't going to produce the same results in muscle mass grown as strictly lifting. I'm only talking about aesthetics here--building the most muscle in the least amount of time.

Also (and I'm sure you know, Steven, because you're pretty knowledgeable about this stuff), you're rarely going to find someone who got huge from doing an hour of curls and triceps kickbacks each day. These bodybuilders also do squats, deadlifts, presses, dips, pull-ups, heavy compound lifts in general.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:28 PM   #23
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Re: The argument over the merit of CF on bodybuilding.com

I'll go along with that.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:50 PM   #24
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Re: The argument over the merit of CF on bodybuilding.com

I'll buy it. But not pullups. I've never seen one of the "silly huge" guys lifting his gorilla self off the ground. Sure, I bet some do it, but none I've ever seen. I see them sweating on the gravitron.

And most of the body building community uses supplements not seen to the same degree in CF (steroids, creatine, mass gain stuff). If you'll refer to the FAQ, body building with steroids is the most effective mass gain plan. I don't know if CF is better than BBing without steroids, it's hard to prove either way- how many huge body builders don't take roids?
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:17 PM   #25
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Re: The argument over the merit of CF on bodybuilding.com

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I don't know if CF is better than BBing without steroids, it's hard to prove either way- how many huge body builders don't take roids?
Actually, quite a lot. Compound movements + Progressive overload + Heavy weights + Eating pigishly = Hugeness (See Starting Strength, 5x5, The Texas Method, etc..)

And a lot of those guy can do crazy heavy weighted pullups... not the guys at Bally's and not the guys who do endless bicep curls, but plenty, trust me. I can post videos that will make your arms hurt, if you like, and from natty lifters.

Just don't make generalizations about a community of which you know only the stereotypes of. Assertions about any group with the word "most" (or "gorilla self") in them are very dangerous.

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Old 10-04-2007, 07:20 PM   #26
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Re: The argument over the merit of CF on bodybuilding.com

Oh man - bodybuilders love pull-ups. Arnold touts them as the best lat-building exercise ever! Believe me, they do them.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:21 PM   #27
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Re: The argument over the merit of CF on bodybuilding.com

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I think the over 35 forum is a great place to participate in due to the maturity level of the members but that thread shows you where some peoples' priorities are and they are clearly not in congruence with the conditioning lifestyle.

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Old 10-04-2007, 09:26 PM   #28
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Re: The argument over the merit of CF on bodybuilding.com

this is a really dumb thread and a waste of time
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:14 AM   #29
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Re: The argument over the merit of CF on bodybuilding.com

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this is a really dumb thread and a waste of time
So, add something of value to it, or just ignore it. You didn't raise the bar with your comment.
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Old 10-05-2007, 03:48 AM   #30
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Moderators note: removed link for not indicating "safe" designation. Unfortunately, there was NOTHING in the post except the link.

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