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Old 02-01-2007, 05:18 PM   #1
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Can someone who has knowledge on this enlighten me? Obviously ones in a ring and one is in an octagon, and they have different gloves, but what is the main distinguisher? and are some guys good in the one and not so good in the other...kind of like folk style and freestyle wrestling? thanks.
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Old 02-01-2007, 06:45 PM   #2
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Pride from what I remember have huge crowds which means more payout. I do remember hearing as well they will fine their fighters for stalling because they want to keep the fights lively.

Wikipedia has a good round about on the K1/Pride fights. Besides, I enjoy whenever the Gracies lose.
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Old 02-01-2007, 09:30 PM   #3
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Lots of differences, and lots of similarities as well.

Pride --
-Takes place in a 20 foot ring
-Has one 10 minute round, followed by two 5 minute rounds (except for tournament fights, or Bushido matches, which are one 10 minute, followed by one 5 minutes), with a 2 minute rest between rounds.
-No elbows to the head and face! This is a BIG difference between UFC and Pride. The Japanese don't like the cutting caused by elbows.
-Judging is also significantly different. Pride judges their fights on the ENTIRE fight, not by the round.

UFC:
-Takes place in the Octagon cage
-Three 5 minute rounds with 1 minute rest between, except for championship matches, which are 5 rounds.
-No strikes to the head when the opponent has 3 or more points on the ground, i.e. is a "grounded opponent." This means no soccer kicks, no knees to the head, etc.
-No stomping a grounded opponent.
-Fights are judged by the round, like boxing. Judges turn in scores following the "10 Point Must" system and points are tallied at the end of the fight.

In addition the weight classes also differ between UFC and Pride, which gets confusing, because they use similar terminology (Middleweight, Welterweight, etc), but refer to different weight ranges.

Hope that helps a little!

There's a lot of other little things too, like in UFC you can't wear a gi, but in Pride you can, etc. For more info check out these links - these are work and family safe, and are links to the official rules pages for both Pride and the UFC.

http://www.pridefc.com/pride2005/whats_rules.htm

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=LearnUFC.Rules

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Old 02-01-2007, 09:33 PM   #4
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Oh, and yes, Pride does have a system to fine the fighters for stalling. They are warned repeatedly by the referee, and if they do not push the action after being warned they are given a "yellow card" -- this yellow card could amount to a disqualification if three are awarded within the fight (they are awarded for any sort of misbehavior, not just stalling), and each card is also represents a 10% docking of the fighter's purse.
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:30 PM   #5
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Thanks Becca! Has there been anyone who has had a lot of success in one and struggled in the other?
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:58 PM   #6
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There wasn't traditionally a lot of moving back and forth -- for a long time Pride had a much bigger budget than UFC and tended to have more international fighters, as well, but this has changed a lot recently.

UFC has acquired Mirko Cro-Cop, who is fighting this weekend, who was a former #1 contender in the Pride HW division and also fought kickboxing in K-1. Rampage Jackson also fights for UFC now, and used to fight in Pride. On the other hand, there's been a few folks who faltered in UFC and then went on to success in Pride, like Phil Baroni, or Josh Barnett who left UFC amid steroid abuse scandal and has had great success in Pride. I think it's less about the promotion and more about where that particular fighter is in their career.
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:39 PM   #7
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Not to mention they don't test for steroids in Pride. *cough* Barnett *cough*.
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Old 02-03-2007, 08:02 AM   #8
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There's plenty of guys who've fought in UFC and used steroids and not been caught -- or even been caught, gotten a slap on the wrist and been welcomed back. It's pretty rampant in the sport.
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:23 AM   #9
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I agree. Fedor was tested and came up clean. Fedor rocks!
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:29 AM   #10
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That doesn't mean he does or doesn't use steroids, he just wasn't caught.
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