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Old 09-30-2013, 04:57 AM   #71
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Re: What can low-carb (ketosis) do for you?

So polyunsaturated fat is bad, but only one is good? Saturated fats are essential even though there is no biological requirement? Some world authority. You only addressed one study you didn't like btw and are straw manning me by ignoring the rest.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:09 AM   #72
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Re: What can low-carb (ketosis) do for you?

Excess of PUFA is bad. You cant avoid having some of it, certenly not the amount that is available in sunflower or similar "oils".

I dont think its a coincidence that beef meat, pork have so little of PUFAs.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:32 AM   #73
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Re: What can low-carb (ketosis) do for you?

Oh, so now a little is okay? I guess I remember warranting PUFA in excessive amounts ??
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:40 AM   #74
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Re: What can low-carb (ketosis) do for you?

You asked what about Rapeseed. To get enough calories from Rapeseed one should "drink" quite a lof of it, then pufas would be in excess.

While, for example, butter can be "eaten" in "massive" amounts and will not harm us.
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Old 09-30-2013, 05:52 AM   #75
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Re: What can low-carb (ketosis) do for you?

I didn't ask about rapeseed nor did I condone the bulk of your calories coming from it. I simply suggest that it is valid source of calories. If I eat it, I eat about a single teaspoon. The majority of my fat comes from extra virgin olive oil and nuts. If you believe that a whole stick of butter is edible harm free, I think we are done here.
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:28 AM   #76
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Re: What can low-carb (ketosis) do for you?

Maybe not whole, but around 80-100g of it.
My cholesterol is so low it cant go lower, so its not harming me I suppose
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:17 PM   #77
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Re: What can low-carb (ketosis) do for you?

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Old 10-03-2013, 02:32 PM   #78
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Re: What can low-carb (ketosis) do for you?

This seems like the most appropriate thread:

http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org.../3307.abstract

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Recent studies show that fructose-induced uric acid generation causes mitochondrial oxidative stress that stimulates fat accumulation independent of excessive caloric intake. These studies challenge the long-standing dogma that “a calorie is just a calorie” and suggest that the metabolic effects of food may matter as much as its energy content.
It kinda makes sense. When Paleo men reached for that juicy fruit, body just wanted to store fat asap as these kinda food was rarely on the menu.
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Old 10-03-2013, 03:19 PM   #79
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Re: What can low-carb (ketosis) do for you?

Boom. End of discussion.
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Boom. End of discussion.
Increased sugar consumption increases uric acid concentrations, but so does consumption of many other foods, including meat, by comparable amounts.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15641075
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15593346
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19375714

Snap!!

A balanced , largely whole foods (Mediterranean) diet can largely mitigate this:

http://biomedgerontology.oxfordjourn...na.glt028.full
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