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Old 02-26-2010, 03:51 PM   #1
JR Saunders
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when first starting out did your....?

did your feet, ankles, top part of your legs..basically hips and wrists hurt from doing padwork?

I tape up my wrists tight w/the wraps before I put the gloves on, but i'm telling you all what I dunno if my wrists are not used to it, but my right wrist which is basically my power side hurts like hell if I hit the pads the wrong way ect..

is it normal?

the feet thing I kinda expected as well as the ankles and the muscle around the hips because i'm not used to kicking ect...

also is there a good way to recover and make these limbs stronger? or is it just repetitive ish that gets them stronger over time?

but on that note, I definitely love this mma stuff...wish i could've gotten into all of this alot sooner
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Old 02-27-2010, 11:46 AM   #2
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Re: when first starting out did your....?

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but on that note, I definitely love this mma stuff...wish i could've gotten into all of this alot sooner
Told ya hehe


On the wrist thing - its "merely" your force output being higher then what your wrist can cope with. Your wrist will be your weak link.

Ring work - handstand pushups - prehaps pushups on the fist (id use a padded surface for knuckles if you dont want arthritis!).

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Slight digression -

Its for this reason that id advocate using a palm heel when fighting barehanded. Once you really start learning to generate power the risk of smashing up your knuckles or hand becomes too great. Infact it should become 100%. Particularly when your targetting the head! A hard boney surface with a hard boney surface!

There arent ANY fighters i know of that dont risk this. I dont give a flip if there channeling chi or spent the last 10 years "conditioning". Eg boxers break there fists all the time in street fights. And the ones that dont modify what there doing - ie strike with less then 100% or body shot..
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In the mean time your gonna have to scale your strikes a bit. Hit with less then 100% power, focus on form and choose your shot more. Sorry its that or have your wrist buckle! The wrist will strengthen over time in response to your striking....

Tell your MMA coach and if hes a knuckle head theyll tell you to keep blasting, give you a tonne of knuckle pushups on a hardsurface or similar. Essentially unpleasent training "because were hard we are!". If hes a smarter coach youll find him looking to, protect and actively strengthen your wrist and give you sound guidance to doing so.

Alot depends on whether youve got a Smart or Knuckle head coach

Maybe with the later its an idea to keep quiet and just get on with it - and strengthen in your own time


Yup the end of your shin, top of ankle should feel it - but will adapt - make sure your striking properly though...

Again watchout if your hurting too much - sounds like your a strong dude whos whacking with alot of power. Youll probably find at this stage your form is a bit raggedly and a good trainer will get you to ease off on the power alittle and attend to form more.

This form foundation pays off in the long run with greater top end performance (power and form under pressure) and fighter longevity!

Talk it over with your coach (unless hes a knuckle head) and other fighters....


Good luck dude!
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Old 03-01-2010, 01:31 PM   #3
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Re: when first starting out did your....?

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Told ya hehe


On the wrist thing - its "merely" your force output being higher then what your wrist can cope with. Your wrist will be your weak link.

Ring work - handstand pushups - prehaps pushups on the fist (id use a padded surface for knuckles if you dont want arthritis!).

==========
Slight digression -

Its for this reason that id advocate using a palm heel when fighting barehanded. Once you really start learning to generate power the risk of smashing up your knuckles or hand becomes too great. Infact it should become 100%. Particularly when your targetting the head! A hard boney surface with a hard boney surface!

There arent ANY fighters i know of that dont risk this. I dont give a flip if there channeling chi or spent the last 10 years "conditioning". Eg boxers break there fists all the time in street fights. And the ones that dont modify what there doing - ie strike with less then 100% or body shot..
=========

In the mean time your gonna have to scale your strikes a bit. Hit with less then 100% power, focus on form and choose your shot more. Sorry its that or have your wrist buckle! The wrist will strengthen over time in response to your striking....

Tell your MMA coach and if hes a knuckle head theyll tell you to keep blasting, give you a tonne of knuckle pushups on a hardsurface or similar. Essentially unpleasent training "because were hard we are!". If hes a smarter coach youll find him looking to, protect and actively strengthen your wrist and give you sound guidance to doing so.

Alot depends on whether youve got a Smart or Knuckle head coach

Maybe with the later its an idea to keep quiet and just get on with it - and strengthen in your own time


Yup the end of your shin, top of ankle should feel it - but will adapt - make sure your striking properly though...

Again watchout if your hurting too much - sounds like your a strong dude whos whacking with alot of power. Youll probably find at this stage your form is a bit raggedly and a good trainer will get you to ease off on the power alittle and attend to form more.

This form foundation pays off in the long run with greater top end performance (power and form under pressure) and fighter longevity!

Talk it over with your coach (unless hes a knuckle head) and other fighters....


Good luck dude!
Thanks for the info man, that def helps.

Ill try to do more knuckle pushups and when I goto the crossfit facility I goto ill prob do more ring dips in the beginning for the warmup.

Ill keep that in mind about striking not as hard too until my wrists do get right.

I have another question for you but ill pm that to you so I'm not hijacking this thread..even tho I started it lol
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:15 AM   #4
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Re: when first starting out did your....?

Kettlebell curls with leverage, wrist rollers and grip work have really helped condition my wrists for power shots - having strong fore-arms is a big benefit.
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Old 03-02-2010, 03:31 PM   #5
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Kettlebell curls with leverage, wrist rollers and grip work have really helped condition my wrists for power shots - having strong fore-arms is a big benefit.
cool...while I was doing some long distance running today I alternated hands to squeeze a hand gripper deal to try to help w/the forearm strength
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