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Old 10-24-2009, 11:42 AM   #11
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Re: Chimp vs Lesner!

This is a video of a lion (not WFS for one "F" word): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnIfupaoALI

I include it here only because it fits with the discussion since the guy asks his wife if she thinks he could "triangle him."

For the record this guy is an idiot, and him taunting the lion p***es me off.
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:08 PM   #12
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Re: Chimp vs Lesner!

REalistically I think the chimp would probably bite off the humans ears/testicles/something before the human could do anything.

It isn't a boxing match.

Monkey fight against humans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW8cILuElHo wfs
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:13 PM   #13
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Re: Chimp vs Lesner!

But with guns, humans win.
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Old 10-24-2009, 03:03 PM   #14
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Re: Chimp vs Lesner!

Chimp all the way!!
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:10 PM   #15
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Re: Chimp vs Lesner!

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For the record, I don't care who the human is, he gets destroyed in this case. Brock Lesnar would probably not take a Doberman, let alone something that has human-like mobility, and superhuman strength.
I don't for a second think that a 110 lb chimp will be stronger than Brock Lesner. More vicious, maybe, but it's not trained for anything. If you could get two hands around it's relatively small throat and could endure the clawing for a bit the contest would be over because it won't know how to escape a simple front choke.

As for Lesner taking down a Doberman, why do you assume this would be easier than a chimp? I think a large doberman could take a chimp most days of the week.
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Old 10-24-2009, 08:07 PM   #16
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Re: Chimp vs Lesner!

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I don't for a second think that a 110 lb chimp will be stronger than Brock Lesner. More vicious, maybe, but it's not trained for anything. If you could get two hands around it's relatively small throat and could endure the clawing for a bit the contest would be over because it won't know how to escape a simple front choke.
Remember the street fighting thread from a few months ago? Many people tend to overestimate the importance of technique and underestimate the importance of viciousness. Even assuming that he's able to get the front choke -- which I for one don't concede -- "enduring" having one's eyes clawed out or belly ripped open is not so simple. Put another way, how would Lesnar do (unarmed) against a human with knives for hands? (Wolverine, maybe?)

I'm also not sure the doberman vs. chimp contest is all that clear cut. Dobermans aren't all that big, and the chimp is probably more agile. Chimp vs. rottweiler, on the other hand...

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Old 10-25-2009, 08:28 AM   #17
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Re: Chimp vs Lesner!

The truth is, this fight couldn't happen. The chimp in an Octagon would just go over the top and away. If you pu a roof on, I bet the chimp could avoid Lesnar until Brock lost interest. If Lesnar caught the chimp, I believe he would kill it and never be able to fight again as he recovered from the damage.
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Old 10-25-2009, 07:03 PM   #18
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Re: Chimp vs Lesner!

For one thing, most male robust chimpanzees ar eheavier than 115. And FAR stronger than Lesnar or even the strongest of strongman competitors. I am talking grip strength. These animals would crush your hand in a handshake.

Remember, you throw a chimp in water, and it drowns. Because their bones are so dense they sink like rocks. That heavy bone structure is because if they had light bones like us, their muscles would break them.

I think the chimp would win using a move akin to a flying arm bar. Their strength is most mechanically efficient when their legs are braced against something and they are pulling up with their arms (like with the dynamometer example). Either flying arm bar or flying arm rip-out of socket.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:48 PM   #19
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Re: Chimp vs Lesner!

How strong is a chimpanzee, really? WFS
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:01 PM   #20
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Re: Chimp vs Lesner!

Lesnar would get eaten alive:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_vINstQpJYak/Sm...ied%201000.jpg

(WFS pic of Cinder the female bald chimp.)
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