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Old 07-24-2012, 11:20 PM   #1
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Completely Lost.. Rowing?

Okay guys.. I'm a total, COMPLETE, noob when it comes to all things CrossFit.. I've been rowing at the gym on occasion and looking at other times to see how I compare.. I found an older forum where people were posting their 500m sprint times and then tested mine at 44 seconds tonight?

Now, I know everyone has been saying 1:15 is like an imacculate time and I'm not conceited enough to think I'm just THAT good of a rower.. Is there a certain setting the rower should be set to in order for the row to be considered legit?

I took a video of the memory of the concept 2 rower to show that I'm not crazy. Unless I'm not in the right setting or am misreading the rower completely.. I'm going to assume it's defective. Help me out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFMPhm4_FDU&feature=plcp
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:02 AM   #2
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Re: Completely Lost.. Rowing?

Yep, sorry, that's not humanly possible.

The stroke rate is high for a 500m, but not unheard of. I noticed you set it up as 1x500m/1'r. The standard way would be to choose "Single distance", 500m, instead of "Intervals:distance", but I don't see how that would explain the time discrepancy.

Was the monitor all over the place during your piece, or did it show a steady pace of 0:45/500m? If it's the former, the PM4 could be set for a model C rower whereas you're actually using a model D. Check this as follows:
On the Main Menu, choose More Options.
Choose Utilities.
Choose Product ID and look at what appears next to "Model." If the model type indicated on the monitor does not match the indoor rower in use, you need to reconfigure it.

Main menu --> more options --> utilities --> LCD contrast

Once on the LCD contrast menu press [CHANGE UNITS] three times then press [CHANGE DISPLAY] three times to reveal the hidden menu and change the model setting.
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:51 AM   #3
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Re: Completely Lost.. Rowing?

Haha! Ok, awesome I'll check that for sure and let you know what I find!

Thanks!
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:58 PM   #4
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Re: Completely Lost.. Rowing?

Maybe the leading "1" is out for some reason? 1:44 isn't a bad time for someone who's relatively new to rowing.

But yeah, a 44s row would be the equivalent of running a ~2:30 mile, so something weird is going on with the monitor.

And as Ewen mentioned, your stroke rate is quite a bit higher than ideal...check out some tutorials on the CF or C2 sites.

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Old 07-27-2012, 03:32 PM   #5
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Re: Completely Lost.. Rowing?

WHoaa sorry for the slow reply. I'll check it out ASAP and let you know my findings. Thanks!
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:37 PM   #6
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Re: Completely Lost.. Rowing?

Ewen, you were 100% correct. Finally got back in the gym and got it all corrected on the machine. It was set as a B/C but it was actually a Model D.

Anyways, not a surprise that my 500m row time went up.. about a minute. hahaha

I got a 1:44. my Stroke speed was 29 s/m. What is an "ideal" s/m again?
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:02 AM   #7
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Re: Completely Lost.. Rowing?

Generally speaking 30spm is a typical 2000m stroke rate. For 500m, you should probably aim to be around 40spm or higher. But even though a 500m erg is always a bit of a thrash (where you die around the 400m mark and just hang on), you need to preserve some semblance of efficient technique to take advantage of the higher stroke rate. Like most things, work on technique before intensity. With a combination of better technique and increased stroke rate, you should see your time drop pretty quickly. 1:44 isn't bad for a start and I'm sure you'll be seeing times in the 1:3x range in a little while.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:29 PM   #8
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Re: Completely Lost.. Rowing?

Did it again today and got my time down to 1:38 with 31 s/m. It's hard for me to convince my body to stroke that fast. haha but thanks for all the tips and I'll keep working at it!
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:30 AM   #9
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Re: Completely Lost.. Rowing?

If anything I think it is more difficult to shorten your spm while maintaining your time. Anyone can go all out and hit 50-60 spm and have weak pulls.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:33 PM   #10
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Re: Completely Lost.. Rowing?

I've written a few articles with rowing advice, if you're interested in learning more. Rowing is quite technique oriented and little improvements will go a long way.

The 17 Commandments of Rowing - My Journey From Hate To Happiness (w/fs)

2 Numbers That Will Make You a Better Rower (w/fs)
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