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Old 06-20-2010, 12:33 AM   #1
Brandon Baker
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Few questions on for Paleo

1) Are Green Beans a vegetable or bean?
2) Corn ok for paleo?
3) Canned or frozen vegetables ok?
4) Fruit juices ok? Like orange juice?
5) I have read bacon is both ok and not ok. which is it?
6) if bacon is ok, Regular bacon or turkey bacon?
7) How does this sample menu look? Enough calories for my goals?

Breakfast:
3 Eggs
3 slices of bacon
1 orange or apple
Handful of almonds

Snack:
1 Orange or apple
Handful of almonds
4oz chicken tenders

Lunch:
8oz Chicken tenders
Some sort of vegetable (squash/zucchini)
Couple of strawberries
handful of almonds

Snack:
4oz of shrimp
apple
handful of almonds

dinner:
8oz ribeye
squash/ zucchini
Baby spinach with vinagarette
strawberries

Snack:
4oz chicken tender
orange
handful of almonds

Goals:
Just starting back with after separating my shoulder 6 months ago. Who would have thought flag football was so dangerous. When I separated my shoulder i was in the middle of SS + GOMAD and I was still making gains at every workout. I had gained 20+lbs and gained a bunch of strength. After the injury I got lazy since i couldn't lift weights and didn't step into a weight room at all and let my diet go to pieces (was doing fairly strict zone before SS). Some how I managed to keep the weight gain and lose the strength after my injury, hahaha. Not too worried about the weight gain though, more ready to get my strength back and some conditioning, but more interested in the strength at this point. I started slowly working out again about a month ago with weights. I haven't done any wods lately, mainly just lifting and running sprints 2 times a week and a trail run (3 miles) once a week. I started out light and have increased 10 lbs each week in the 5 lifts below. Still way below were I was but the conditioning seems to be coming back quickly enough.

I would like to do the 30 day paleo challenge while I slowly get my unconditioned self back into my previous form. I don't expect it to take too long and expect my strength to bounce back fairly quickly. After the 30 day paleo challenge I would like to re-incorporate milk at maybe a 1/4GOMAD to get my strength gains back (or at least somewhat close) and maybe start doing CFFB or maybe back to SS to see if I have any more gains since I didn't quite finish it last time.

OH and currently 6' and 195lbs with probably 15% bf I imagine.

6 months ago:
DL: 1x5 @ 335
BS: 3x5 @ 295
Press: 3x5 @ 145
BP: 3x5 @ 185
PC: 5x3 @ 165

Now (not necessarily the most i can do, just working up slowly):
DL: 1x3 @ 275
BS: 3x5 @ 235
Press: 3x5 @ 115
BP: 3x5 @ 155
PC: 5x3 @ 135


Anyways thanks for any insight.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:13 AM   #2
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Re: Few questions on for Paleo

Going to the grocery store in a few hours. If anyone has any answers I would appreciate it.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:30 AM   #3
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Re: Few questions on for Paleo

1) No green beans
2) No Corn
3) Frozen is fine. I use a lot of frozen veg, and lots of canned tomatoes (obviously fresh veg is better).
4) I would stay away from juice. Way too much sugar.
5) Bacon is awesome. I use regular, but it all depends on if you would want to lean out. I stayed away from it until I got where I wanted to be.

*Looks pretty good. I wouldnt worry too much about measuring everything out, but that is just what works for me. I eat when I am hungry, and every time that I eat I make sure to have some type of fish, chicken, beef, etc... Also, I do not try to get stuffed (or let myself get too hungry). If I am trying to lean out, I take out bacon, and the dairy that I normally consume in large amounts...

Like I said. This is what works for me. I have seen the biggest gains in performance in the past 4-5 months from paleo + dairy.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:31 AM   #4
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Re: Few questions on for Paleo

1. Bean
2. No corn.
3. Frozen is better than canned(added salt)
4. Fruit juice usually has added sugar. Just eat whole fruit.
5. Bacon is a gift from God. Eat it.
6. Either one. Sometimes I do both. Turkey is pretty much protein, pork bacon is some protein, mostly fat.
7. Menu looks good. You might want to throw some different fat sources in there, like avocado and olive oil. Also make sure you get enough fish oil- about .7-1 gram per 10lbs of bodyweight.

I don't think you need milk. You've got a good baseline here. Stick with this and see if you see some gains. If you don't, up your calorie intake. If that doesn't work, then I would resort to milk.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:35 AM   #5
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Re: Few questions on for Paleo

Green beans are a legume. Corn is a grain. Neither is strictly paleo. IMO either is fine to eat, but I'm not eating paleo.

Canned and frozen veggies are fine, and probably better than something that was picked two weeks ago on the other side of the world. Fresh and local is always best.

People will tell you to avoid juice because of the high sugar content. YMMV.

Pork belly is definitely paleo. The arguments around bacon center on the method used to cure it. Read labels. Turkey bacon is something I personally would avoid: take the parts of the turkey that no one wants, add lots of salt, and sell it to people who think good honest pork is unhealthy.

I'd want more variety than your sample menu, and probably more fat. It's okay for one day, but would get old fast. Why do people think the breast is the only edible part of the chicken?

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Old 06-20-2010, 11:36 AM   #6
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Re: Few questions on for Paleo

Good thing I like squash and zucchini as my two favorite "vegetables" just got shot down. haha. Thanks for the help though.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:38 AM   #7
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Re: Few questions on for Paleo

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Good thing I like squash and zucchini as my two favorite "vegetables" just got shot down. haha. Thanks for the help though.
I'm sure someone will take a shot at the squash, too, because of the starch. That's why I don't eat paleo.

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Old 06-20-2010, 11:41 AM   #8
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Re: Few questions on for Paleo

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Turkey bacon is something I personally would avoid: take the parts of the turkey that no one wants, add lots of salt, and sell it to people who think good honest pork is unhealthy.
Katherine
Agreed, there is no bacon producing body part on a Turkey. Just say no to reconstituted meat products.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:46 AM   #9
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Re: Few questions on for Paleo

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I'm sure someone will take a shot at the squash, too, because of the starch. That's why I don't eat paleo.

Katherine
Pretty much even the most ardent Paleo devotees are fine with green beans and squash. Squash is pretty heavy in starch...use it wisely...maybe restrict to post-workout. Green beans are legumes, but I'm pretty sure their anti-nutrients are manageable.
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Old 06-22-2010, 12:16 PM   #10
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Re: Few questions on for Paleo

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Also make sure you get enough fish oil- about .7-1 gram per 10lbs of bodyweight.
BTW, Robb Wolf says .5-1, with 1 being for sick people and .5 being for healthy people.
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