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Old 03-04-2011, 09:41 PM   #1
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has anyone seen this...

So I was at the Nike Coach of the Year Football Clinic today and there was a vendor there who was selling this "system". It's basically a curriculum that a phys. ed teacher or coach could use to train their classroom or team.

http://www.speedstrengthtraining.com...&id=4&Itemid=7 WFS

When I saw it I said, "That's Crossfit!" The sales rep said, "Oh No!, It's NOT Crossfit! In fact, it's better than Crossfit because it's focuses on strength and not just a bunch of metcons!"

She obviously has no idea what Crossfit is. Anyway, I saw them doing Angie, and they even called it Angie but she insisted it wasn't Crossfit! Just an FYI, they charge $250.00 for the system! I told her I can get that for free online!

I could be completely wrong here and Crossfit is somehow attached to this but I was just really surprised to hear her be so adamant that it was NOT Crossfit!
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:48 PM   #2
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Re: has anyone seen this...

Well if they're using named WoDs then yeah that seems to be Crossfit.

If they weren't though then I wouldn't call it Crossfit. I mean Crossfit didn't invent high intensity workouts, timed workouts, etc.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:06 PM   #3
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Re: has anyone seen this...

The Curriculum lists plenty of the Girls in its programming.

If it ain't still, it's certainly borrowing.

Almost seem like its an affiliate selling its programming.
I'd have no qualms about it if it somehow acknowledged CF.
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Old 03-05-2011, 12:54 AM   #4
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Re: has anyone seen this...

There are named CF workouts in his SST Curriculum. In his BIO page area he doesn't list any CF certs but has a few others:

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Masters in Exercise Science, 1982 CSU Long Beach

CSCS (Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist)

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Old 03-05-2011, 01:07 AM   #5
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Re: has anyone seen this...

The March WODs sure look like, "a bunch of metcons" to say they focus on strength...
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:58 AM   #6
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Re: has anyone seen this...

This is straight from the last page of the Level 1 Study Guide.

"You can NOT re-package the methodology, rephrase the articulation, and label it your own. This is infringement."

I'm pretty sure what he is doing is WAY wrong and the CF "Legal Department" will be all over this. It'd be different if this guy was not charging a fee for this and just using the methods to train others for free. He could at least change the names and not be so obvious. I hope to have my affiliation soon. That being said, I've been very careful not to do the wrong thing to ruin that for me when training with other people. My 2 cents.
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:16 AM   #7
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Re: has anyone seen this...

If you go to there website and fond where they are located, then go to the affiliates section on the CF mainpage website you will see that they are part of the Rocklin California Crossfit Affiliate. A simple search and common sense would have answered your question. They are probably saying that they aren't crossfit because, CF is a bad word in some circles. It is all part of the sales pitch.
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:19 AM   #8
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Re: has anyone seen this...

wait... you *are* doing crossfit if you're just doing sports that others have been doing for ages, but you *aren't* doing crossfit if your sample curriculum (http://www.speedstrengthtraining.com...lum_Sample.pdf) begins with angie, barbara, chelsea, diane, elizabeth, fran, grace, helen, isabel, jackie and linda?

i am so confused.

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Old 03-05-2011, 05:57 PM   #9
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Re: has anyone seen this...

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If you go to there website and fond where they are located, then go to the affiliates section on the CF mainpage website you will see that they are part of the Rocklin California Crossfit Affiliate. A simple search and common sense would have answered your question. They are probably saying that they aren't crossfit because, CF is a bad word in some circles. It is all part of the sales pitch.
It's not Crossfit it's better than Crossfit because we focus on strength, but we are a cf affiliate, there's a disconnect there.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:31 PM   #10
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I think that it makes perfect sense. For example a lot of people in the military think Crossfit is bad. However if you say your workouts are not Crossfit even though they are and say they are something else and it is better they will let you do it. If you look at who they are marketing to you will see why. They are trying to sell there system to a school for P.E. Crossfit has a lot of bad hype around it. So to sell it they have to call it something else.
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