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Old 02-08-2006, 01:52 PM   #1
Sean Manseau
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I just made myself some "rings" by running 5' lengths of chain through 6" pipe sections and hanging them. The chain forms an triangle about 6" on a side from the base. Here's my question: I noticed that as I was doing dips today my elbows kind of wedged up against the length of the chain, aiding in stability. is this cheating?
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Old 02-08-2006, 01:59 PM   #2
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Hi Sean,

I'm not an authority, but since cheating is pretty subjective, I'll weigh in anyway. No, I don't think you're cheating. I find that my arms naturally do the same and it would be awkward to try to avoid it. You're still hanging in the air and your arms are still independent, so there's still plenty of work for the appropriate muscles to do.

I hope this helps.
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:16 PM   #3
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Anyone do kipping ring dips? Would that be cheating in anyone's mind?
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:26 PM   #4
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I do bench dips, is that cheating :lame:?

ok I do 4x, is that better :happy:?

Come on Tyler Hass, bring it!
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:31 PM   #5
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Well when I do ring dips I will often require that the rings be fully turned out throughout and that no contact to the cables occur. This is of course training gymnasts that need to know how to do this. Is it "cheating" no, does it make it easier yes. It really depends on what you are training for. If you allow cable contact you'll get in more reps and it's a slightly different stimulous.
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Old 02-08-2006, 04:52 PM   #6
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I find that "that cheating" makes my outer elbows rub against the rope, giving a small pain to remember the dips by.

Roger: how do you place your hands to avoid this contact?
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Old 02-09-2006, 09:40 AM   #7
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Rings turned out. You should support so that the rings are turned out possibly as much as 45 degrees. This will place the rings behind your shoulders as you dip. Yes, this will be significantly harder at first.
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Old 02-09-2006, 06:01 PM   #8
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Old 02-10-2006, 03:14 PM   #9
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Cheating or not cheating, I find that there is more benifit to ring dips than doing dips on a stable platform.
Then move your hands turned out and different positions. It will work a little different, like different grips on pull-ups.
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Old 02-11-2006, 08:08 AM   #10
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It has very little to do with "cheating" and everything to do with whether or not you would like to progress to more advanced ring strength skills down the road.

If, in the future, you would like to train for a planche, iron cross or maltese, then you will need to be quite careful that your current training prepares you for the necessary training loads inherent in working these elements. Failure to do so could result in some spectacular joint injuries. A ring dip where the straight arm support has the rings are turned outward to approx. 45 degress and the elbows are locked with the arms (and the rings) remaining clear of the lats and hips, is an absolute mandatory prerequisite for all straight arm strength elements on the rings.


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