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Old 08-01-2009, 10:17 AM   #1
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O-6/O-3 ratio, how to best lower it?

Besides not eating processed crap (which I do already, mostly paleo +homemade yogurt), what else can one do? I eat almonds, walnuts and other tree nuts in moderation (~1oz / day), but aren't these high in O-6 too? Should I cut them out? I eat sardines daily, and take 6-9 fish oil caps daily. I eat local farm eggs (free range). I do buy commercial beef, when/if I run out of venison. Grassfed is just too expensive for me to subsist on regularly.
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Old 08-01-2009, 02:48 PM   #2
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Re: O-6/O-3 ratio, how to best lower it?

best way to lower it is, like you said, megadosing fish oil, buying grassfed meats, pastured eggs, and eating fatty fish. I know when I've gotten enough fish oil when I cut myself shaving, and it gets hard to stop bleeding. Dial back my intake a little bit when that happens, and I'm good to go. For me, usually 1 gram of EPA+DHA per 10 pounds of bodyweight per day.
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:42 PM   #3
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For me, usually 1 gram of EPA+DHA per 10 pounds of bodyweight per day.
Wow, really? That's like 55 fish oil capsules per day. Or 30 tins of sardines every day, or 120 oz of salmon, or maybe 400 oz of raw tuna. Are you sure? I love sardines, but I'm not sure I can afford that.
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Re: O-6/O-3 ratio, how to best lower it?

you have pretty poor quality fish oil then....carlson's is 1 g epa+ dha per teaspoon.....
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:03 PM   #5
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Re: O-6/O-3 ratio, how to best lower it?

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you have pretty poor quality fish oil then....carlson's is 1 g epa+ dha per teaspoon.....
That's still 15-20 teaspoons, or more than 5 tablespoons of freaking fish oil
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Re: O-6/O-3 ratio, how to best lower it?

I know, but that seems to be what the consensus is in regards to fish oil consumption, according to robb and co. Might be lower for some than others, but that is where I am at right now
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:53 AM   #7
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Re: O-6/O-3 ratio, how to best lower it?

Kurt;
Attached is a good article I found while researching Omega-3 anti-inflamatory properties . It looks like the omega3/omega 6 ratio should be around 1:2 . Look at your fish oil capsules to see actually how much you're getting of EPA and DHA
http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?ProdID=1942 WFS
Mike- I'm no expert on this stuff but it seems like you're taking alot of EPA+DHA per day based on your coagulation . If you ever need to go to the operating room , make sure you let your surgeon and anesthesiologist know your taking fish oil . I'm an anesthesiologist and have been unpleasantly surprised by a patient who keeps oozing blood intra and post op only to find out later they were on something like omega -3 fish oils .
By the way , they work great as anti-inflamatories ; my plantar fasciitis is significantly better after a few days of 1200mg per day of EPA+DHA.
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:28 AM   #8
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Re: O-6/O-3 ratio, how to best lower it?

My capsules have about 330mg EPA/DHA per 1g capsule. Most I've seen are about that, with a few "concentrated" brands out there. Almost everything I've read suggests that 3-4g EPA/DHA is enough for the majority of health benefits for most people/ most conditions. So, 9-12 fish caps will do it, or 3-4oz Salmon/mackerel/sardines daily.

It seems to me it's probably easier (and cheaper) to reduce O-6s than it is to get your O-3 way up there to balance high O-6s. Then fill in the rest of your fat cals with monounsat fats.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:36 AM   #9
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Re: O-6/O-3 ratio, how to best lower it?

Nutra-Sea Hi-potency has 2 g of EPA and DHA per teaspoon.
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Re: O-6/O-3 ratio, how to best lower it?

Bill-

Yes, I scaled back my intake once I got feedback from the razor cut. All good now. And I do let doctors know in advance, thank you though
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