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Old 11-14-2008, 12:54 AM   #1
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New To Zone/Paleo...How Are Oats OK, But Grains/Bread aren't???

Stupid question maybe.

But, I have pretty much cut out all breads, grains, pastas from my diet (xcept on cheat days) and replaced them with green veggies and fruit.

However, I see that oats are allowed in the "favorable" carbohydrate category.

How is it that grains, breads, pastas, etc are bad...but oats are good???

Doesn't 100% whole wheat bread, pasta or brown rice contain pretty much the same G.I. as oats?

Please help explain. I would love to start throwing in some oats and melted natty peanut butter in with my breakfasts if it's allowable in the paleo/zone sense.
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Old 11-14-2008, 02:11 AM   #2
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Re: New To Zone/Paleo...How Are Oats OK, But Grains/Bread aren't???

Zone and Paleo are not the same thing. Paleo is a diet, recommending only the foods you should eat and saying nothing on quantity, while Zone is more of a meal plan, dictating nutrient ratios and overall calories. Some people combine the two (eating Paleo foods on Zone guidlines), while others do one or the other.

Oats aren't Paleo (grain). Peanuts aren't Paleo either (legumes).
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Old 11-14-2008, 04:18 AM   #3
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Re: New To Zone/Paleo...How Are Oats OK, But Grains/Bread aren't???

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Zone and Paleo are not the same thing. Paleo is a diet, recommending only the foods you should eat and saying nothing on quantity, while Zone is more of a meal plan, dictating nutrient ratios and overall calories. Some people combine the two (eating Paleo foods on Zone guidlines), while others do one or the other.

Oats aren't Paleo (grain). Peanuts aren't Paleo either (legumes).
Fair enough. So then to rephrase my question. Why are oats the only favorable carb that is not a veggie or fruit?

What is setting them apart from the whole wheat carb options??
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Old 11-14-2008, 05:46 AM   #4
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Re: New To Zone/Paleo...How Are Oats OK, But Grains/Bread aren't???

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Fair enough. So then to rephrase my question. Why are oats the only favorable carb that is not a veggie or fruit?

What is setting them apart from the whole wheat carb options??
This article discusses it. http://www.modernforager.com/blog/20...eat-real-food/

Also, I think that Oats are, in general, much less refined than other grain products. Even "whole grain" breads are processed quite a bit. Oats on the other hand are pretty straight-forward. Besided, G.I. is not a great metric. It has its uses, but also its failings. As that article says, start by eating real food, then worry about G.I. numbers and the like. Oats are more "real food" than breads.
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:46 AM   #5
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Re: New To Zone/Paleo...How Are Oats OK, But Grains/Bread aren't???

David sums it up well. I might add that GI is very important in the Zone hierarchy for maintaining a moderate insulin response. I agree totally with David that GI is not the holy grail of nutrional excellence however. Many good foods (e.g., carrots, watermelon) are proscribed by the Zone because of high GI.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:05 PM   #6
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Re: New To Zone/Paleo...How Are Oats OK, But Grains/Bread aren't???

Thanks for the links and appreciate your input.
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Old 11-15-2008, 07:59 PM   #7
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Re: New To Zone/Paleo...How Are Oats OK, But Grains/Bread aren't???

And although I personally dont eat them, when eating oats one should only use STEEL CUT OATS. And def not those instant oats which are highly refined!!

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Old 11-16-2008, 01:33 PM   #8
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Re: New To Zone/Paleo...How Are Oats OK, But Grains/Bread aren't???

I think alot of the reason oats are 'allowed' is due to the high fibre content. For example 100g of Oats equates to 50g carbohydrates, but also contains 15g of fibre. Therefore 100g only contains 35g of insulin inducing carbohydrates
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