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Old 06-17-2011, 01:17 PM   #11
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Re: Touch and go vs. reseting.

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Why would any gym go so far as to "ban" touch and go? I do it all the time and so do a lot of type level strength athletes....it's one thing to choose to do every rep as a single on your own, but since when does the gym need to dictate your workout to such a degree?
Your form is probably better than the typical person, too. As someone upthread pointed out, his gym banned touch and go because people were injuring themselves.

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Old 06-17-2011, 02:26 PM   #12
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Re: Touch and go vs. reseting.

Exactly. I can do touch & go just fine myself. And so can many others. But since touch & go also makes me stronger by doing the same workout (5x3, 5x5) why *not* do it?

When we do deadlifts for the WOD, like 100 BW DLs, or part of a circuit/chipper, we do still perform touch & go b/c the weight is well below anyone's max, so a little slop won't hurt you.
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:56 PM   #13
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This part is the reason why it's good to use both from time to time. Or work your weakness off the floor via other methods like deficit DL's.
Yeah, that makes sense.

You said you use both in your programming... do you just alternate every other deadlift day?
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:00 PM   #14
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Yeah, that makes sense.

You said you use both in your programming... do you just alternate every other deadlift day?
For me when I was doing a program that was sets of 3 or 5, I would dead stop/reset. Doing something like 5/3/1 that required a max rep set, I would do a light touch and go (not a bounce) otherwise it was too difficult to gauge when a set ended. I could stand there all day hanging onto the bar and keep eeking out a rep here and there...
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:05 PM   #15
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Re: Touch and go vs. reseting.

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Why would any gym go so far as to "ban" touch and go? I do it all the time and so do a lot of type level strength athletes....it's one thing to choose to do every rep as a single on your own, but since when does the gym need to dictate your workout to such a degree?
Because it's my gym, so I can do what I want to do. If people don't like it, they can train elsewhere.

Kipping is also banned.

So is doing high rep barbell lifts for conditioning.

So is whatever else I don't like.

If I want to make an exception to the rule, I can because it's my gym.
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:46 PM   #16
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What are the merits of touch and go? I never do touch and go.
do you do Romainians, SLD, Snatch Grip dead.

one of my favourite vids is Hanz Weiz World hammer champ 1997 doing SGDs from small deficeit (with straps -shock horror) with 180kgs for a set of eight, slow up, shrug at top rise on toes, slow down not quite touch, perfect form steady tempo, - "time under tension" - hypertrophy - strength work - try it one day if your coach will let you (or find a box in which they will)

lot's more out there in the world than the world of crossfit

sorry for the sarcasm .. your post can be taken two ways..a question, that's fine or a statement, ...read mine accordingly
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:54 PM   #17
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Yeah, that makes sense.

You said you use both in your programming... do you just alternate every other deadlift day?
Pretty much what Chris said. I also use it as a form of deload. If I'm feeling trashed and don't feel like pulling 350x8 touch and go then I might do 350x5 regripping and just note it in my log. I also try and do touch and go double overhanded axle deadlifts which sometimes become regrip due to grip fatigue and the fact that they make darn sure your touch is not a bounce
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:14 PM   #18
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Re: Touch and go vs. reseting.

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do you do Romainians, SLD, Snatch Grip dead.

one of my favourite vids is Hanz Weiz World hammer champ 1997 doing SGDs from small deficeit (with straps -shock horror) with 180kgs for a set of eight, slow up, shrug at top rise on toes, slow down not quite touch, perfect form steady tempo, - "time under tension" - hypertrophy - strength work - try it one day if your coach will let you (or find a box in which they will)

lot's more out there in the world than the world of crossfit

sorry for the sarcasm .. your post can be taken two ways..a question, that's fine or a statement, ...read mine accordingly
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the plates are not supposed to touch the floor during RDL reps. At least that is not how I do RDL. I've done SLDL. I've never done SGDL. I have never had a coach unless internet forum members count. I train at home.

For 5/3/1 DL assistive work, I am doing BBB DL @60 of my max up from 50% as of this week, with a double overhand grip. As already stated by someone else, I feel it is helping improve my grip strength and pull off of the floor. I figure kill two birds with one stone instead of having to do additional work to improve my pull off of the floor.
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:56 PM   #19
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Re: Touch and go vs. reseting.

Full resets are better for strength off the floor ... which is what starts every 1RM. But touch-and-go can be good for building grip strength, dealing with fatigue, etc.
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Old 06-17-2011, 06:31 PM   #20
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Because it's my gym, so I can do what I want to do. If people don't like it, they can train elsewhere.

Kipping is also banned.

So is doing high rep barbell lifts for conditioning.

So is whatever else I don't like.

If I want to make an exception to the rule, I can because it's my gym.
Tamara, if you don't mind my asking, why exactly is kipping banned? For the sake of building more strength in the back during pulls?
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