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Old 01-06-2008, 05:10 PM   #11
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Re: Kipping Styles

Lincoln, how many times have you hit your head on the ceiling doing muscle-ups there? I thought I don't have much space on my homemade pullup bar, and I occasionally bash my skull when I go too fast or when I'm not careful.

As for kipping, I think everyone has their own unique style. Mine probably looks most like Annie's out of all the videos out there, but it's not identical. Experiment with all the different approaches (swing, frog kick, etc.) until you find the one that's most comfortable and effective, and don't worry if it doesn't look just like the videos.
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Old 01-06-2008, 05:13 PM   #12
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Re: Kipping Styles

There is a decent argument to be made, though, that a more efficient, slower kip (the long arch-hollow) will keep you on the bar longer for your set and may therefore actually lead to lower numbers than a quicker, less efficient kip. You get fatigued just hanging there.

Everyone may have a different balance.
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Old 01-06-2008, 05:18 PM   #13
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Re: Kipping Styles

Another thing:
I think your lats do more work in the concentric on the swing relative to the kick and your lats do more work in the eccentric on the kick relative to the swing.
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Old 01-06-2008, 05:27 PM   #14
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Re: Kipping Styles

I've noticed that trainees with weak abs and hip flexors have trouble generating power with the long swing. More knees-to-elbows and ab work on the glute/ham bench would actually improve their pullups.
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Old 01-06-2008, 06:07 PM   #15
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Re: Kipping Styles

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There is a decent argument to be made, though, that a more efficient, slower kip (the long arch-hollow) will keep you on the bar longer for your set and may therefore actually lead to lower numbers than a quicker, less efficient kip. You get fatigued just hanging there.

Everyone may have a different balance.
Well, the tradeoff is in power efficiency. The more powerful you are (or the more power you can generate) the faster you want to do them.. since it leads to a better workout for you metabolically.
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Old 01-06-2008, 06:44 PM   #16
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Re: Kipping Styles

It seems also, from my observation, that the more experienced and efficient you get at the swinging kip, the smaller your swing becomes and therefore the cycle time lowers, as well.
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:16 AM   #17
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Re: Kipping Styles

Retested the "kipping squat" idea. It actually didn't seem any different from regular squatting.

If that's the case, though, what's with the hand motions that Greg A. does with air squats?
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:48 AM   #18
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Re: Kipping Styles

AFT kip is a lot less metabolically demanding both on grip and heart (just because you get done with pullups faster. Takes a bit longer to learn though - it's pretty counter intuitive.

No problem with height - I'm 6'3" at 220.
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:03 AM   #19
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I use two different methods depending on the workout. I use the frog kick of I'm going for time (Fran) and the Eva kip if I'm going for distance (Angie, max pullups). I need to learn AFT.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:00 AM   #20
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Re: Kipping Styles

This thread has really helped me alot, I know. I don't particularly have a kipping style as im still trying to learn how to kip. I am finding that it has been hard to undo years of training in doing strict military style hanging pullups. I actually feel like I can do more strict (about 12) in one set then I can kipping. During TSE I paced on pullups to do 4 each 20s iteration (PU's are a weakness) so i'd still have some in the 8th iteration. Some of this may be psychological, but I do know now that I should check out my options on kipping styles (Eva, AFT, and Annie) and try to apply the one that works best for me. Can videos of all three of these women be found on Exercises and Demos section of the main page.
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