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Old 01-15-2006, 12:04 PM   #1
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Anyone else see this show on mtv? I just watched it and it followed three different people on steroids. It is a mirror reflection on our society and how everyone wants to be the best but without the necessary work or effort. One guy was a fitness model, and openly shared with the photographer that he was on steroids, yet another reason why these magazines suck. The other guy was an mma fighter who said he just couldn't train hard enough with out steroids. I just really have no respect for these guys and shows like this undermines hard work and promotes steroid use. Any thoughts?
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:35 PM   #2
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I think you hit the nail on the head with "everyone wants to be the best but without the necessary work or effort." How many martial arts schools out there do you know where people can get a black belt in 2 or 3 years? More than the ones where it takes 7 or 8. Same thing.
But looking like the best and being the best are two different things.
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:54 PM   #3
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"But looking like the best and being the best are two different things". Very well said.
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Old 01-15-2006, 01:19 PM   #4
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But looking like the best and being the best are two different things.
Which pretty much sums up the difference between bodybuilding and CrossFit, yes?
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Old 01-15-2006, 01:21 PM   #5
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About the MMA guy, without serious genetic gifts like Randy Couture or Chuck Liddell have many fighters have zero chance to be a champion in MMA without roids. So many people are using it almost evens the playing field to use. But I still like what Cabbage said about the satisfaction in beating the tar out of the buffed steroid freaks.
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Old 01-15-2006, 07:01 PM   #6
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If that is the case about the pro mma community, it is very sad. I see pro fighters as being the top of the top as athletes but if steroids are part of the daily diet then that is as respectable as pro bodybuilding.
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Old 01-15-2006, 07:23 PM   #7
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Pro MMA fighters are no different than other pro athletes.

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Old 01-15-2006, 08:21 PM   #8
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So, what if a CF athlete wanted to use anabolics?
-Would there be a "right" reason?
-What if he lived in a place where anabolics weren't a scheduled drug?
-What if he be in competition with other anabolics users?

Where do you draw the line? What if someone on testosterone replacement therapy did Crossfit? Would that be ok?

What if someone who was panhypopit wanted to do CF? Would that be all right (panhypopit means they are usually on an entire array of hormonal replacement therapy due the the pituitary being including testosterone and growth hormone, if they are male)

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Old 01-15-2006, 08:44 PM   #9
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The top of the top athletes in any developed sport is littered with, and some would say dominated by, athletes using performance enhancing drugs.
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Old 01-15-2006, 11:36 PM   #10
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If that is the case, that is not an athlete that is a junkie. Last time i checked we were not paying crackheads millions of dollars a year to use so why should we pay steroid users?
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