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Old 02-02-2012, 11:28 PM   #1
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My training partner squatting 1,020 including band tension

This is from our Circa-Max session last Friday. Justin is in full gear with straps down. That's me commentating . I cannot emphasize how crazy that band tension is (we measured it at 460 lbs at the top).

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Old 02-03-2012, 08:17 AM   #2
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Wow, just wow. Strong beast!
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:50 AM   #3
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Re: My training partner squatting 1,020 including band tension

Wow, so fast. What has he done in competition?
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Old 02-03-2012, 03:23 PM   #4
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Wow, so fast. What has he done in competition?
I believe 940. He's good for more now. We expect 1k+ at his next meet.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:51 PM   #5
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I wish I was half this strong. Probably take me two years or so to get to 500 (if ever). Nice work.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:27 AM   #6
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I believe 940. He's good for more now. We expect 1k+ at his next meet.
I believe it.

Does he have a meet in mind?
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:00 AM   #7
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That is nuts, can you explain the benefits of training with the bands vs typical weight? Is it for working on the upper part of the squat since it gets harder as you reach the top?
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:50 AM   #8
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Re: My training partner squatting 1,020 including band tension

Check out Westside Barbell and read a lot of the free articles, they'll help explain the reasoning behind bands. Here's a couple of them:

1.) Accomodating Resistance--as you suggested, makes the lift harder in the easier parts (like at the top of a squat).

2.) Acceleration--because of the increasing tension you have to move the bar faster sooner and longer to keep it moving. Hence, bands might not only help at the top but help earlier on because you are trying to be more explosive from the start. Also, because of the bands you don't have to slow down as you normally would at the top--without bands your body automatically slows down to prevent throwing the weight/overextending.

3.) "Overspeed eccentrics"--not sure I fully understand this, but I'll give it a try. Average Kinetic Energy = 1/2 mass x (velocity squared). Bands will increase the velocity and the energy. This will be stored in the elastic tissue and can be used to explode on the concentric.

4.) My impression is bands also help mimic some of the mechanics of geared training.
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:10 PM   #9
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Check out Westside Barbell and read a lot of the free articles, they'll help explain the reasoning behind bands. Here's a couple of them:

1.) Accomodating Resistance--as you suggested, makes the lift harder in the easier parts (like at the top of a squat).

2.) Acceleration--because of the increasing tension you have to move the bar faster sooner and longer to keep it moving. Hence, bands might not only help at the top but help earlier on because you are trying to be more explosive from the start. Also, because of the bands you don't have to slow down as you normally would at the top--without bands your body automatically slows down to prevent throwing the weight/overextending.

3.) "Overspeed eccentrics"--not sure I fully understand this, but I'll give it a try. Average Kinetic Energy = 1/2 mass x (velocity squared). Bands will increase the velocity and the energy. This will be stored in the elastic tissue and can be used to explode on the concentric.

4.) My impression is bands also help mimic some of the mechanics of geared training.
all of the above but for geared lifters I think they are essential, helpful in raw but maybe not essential
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No, bands don't mimic the mechanics of geared lifting?

I think you are trying to say they complement them?

Bands do several things. Overspeed eccentrics are one with the concept being the faster down the faster up. The main attraction of bands is that they force the lifter to use a greater effort throughout the ROM thus making each repetition more efficient at building strength. You have to accelerate all the way through lockout where you would not normally have to do so. They are equally effective for geared and raw lifters. The idea they are not is a myth which I assume is derived from the fact Westside initiated their popularity and Westside is a primarily geared gym.
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