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Old 11-22-2006, 06:28 AM   #1
Israel Halperin
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i am fully aware of my moving forward torso the lower i get, i just dont understand why its happening and how can i fix it.

thanks
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Old 11-22-2006, 06:58 AM   #2
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"forward torso the lower i get"

can't open the files, but sounds like the common overdominant quads and weak hamstrings/glutes. Instead of letting your glutes/hams take the weight transfer it turns more into a back bend which is dangerous. Also may be a lack of flexibility in your calves and a weak spinal erector rocking you forward. Solution: Go lighter and master the form all the way down...deep. Try box squatting to get the hams firing again.

If your form isn't right...step back and go lighter till it is.
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:42 AM   #3
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i think you hit the nail on the head, even without seeing the videos, mike.

israel, your deadlift looks all right to me...maybe try to emphasize the shoulders back? i can't really tell if you're doing that already.

with the squat, it doesn't look like you're even getting your thighs parallel to the ground. i'd definitely work on getting lower down into the squat. go lighter and work on depth.

take a look at this video of aimee anaya back squatting, courtesy of catalyst athletics (work/family safe): http://www.cathletics.com/resources/.../backSquat.mov
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:17 PM   #4
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I'd be glad to look at them if you re-post in an accessible format.
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Old 11-24-2006, 04:36 AM   #5
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the files will open using realplayer media.

on a side note,mark i am just going through your book for the second time. pure gold. its funny how you from all people offer to criticize my form.
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Old 11-24-2006, 01:05 PM   #6
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Tried to open with RealPlayer, no can do. If you can e-mail me another type of file, I'd be glad to look.
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Old 11-24-2006, 02:39 PM   #7
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Here you go Rip, I converted them to quicktime for you...




Isreal, next time you sneak a video camera into the gym make sure your buddy is holding it upright while filming you...
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:49 PM   #8
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Thanks to the ever-helpful Pierre. Squat looks pretty good, could stand to be a little more on the heels and push the knees out at the bottom. This makes the upward hip drive out of the bottom much easier.

The deadlift was more clearly a problem. You are setting up behind the bar in your start position, and your shoulders need to be more in front of the bar before it leaves the floor. Notice that you get in that position the instant the bar leaves the floor anyway, so go ahead and set up there before you start. That way there'll be no wasted movement before the bar leaves the floor and the movement will feel "shorter" to you as your efficiency improves, as well as lighter when it breaks off the floor. Raise your butt higher, get out over the bar, push it back to your shins and pull.
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Old 11-24-2006, 06:55 PM   #9
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Good Stuff Mark. Keep the posts coming!! You are very well respected around here.:bowdown:
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:11 PM   #10
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Pierre, thanks for your help ! next time i post a vid here ill make sure it will be done better.

mark, i am surprised you think my squat looks good ? does the fact that i lean forward during the descent indicates that i lack flexibility or strength in my hamstrings/gluts or could it be accepted as my individual movment pattern.

about the deadlift, very interesting observation, never even though of that.
other that the start, do you think the form is ok? i figured that my butt takes off first indicates at least something, or again, should i accpet it the way it is.

thanks alot, israel
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