Opposite of cleans?

Richard Paul Ham-Williams · 04-18-2006, 06:02 AM

Hi All,

Just a thought on some decent full body movements -

I love the cleans and presses, I feel the benefit from head to toe and love the movement, however, it wouls seem to be predominently a lower body and back stressor (hip extension) - which is cool.

My question is this - is there a decent exercise that would work the body in the opposite plains of movement? i.e. hip flexion - kinda of instead of pulling a weight up, more pulling it down from over head to feet level?

Maybe the ab wheel type movement and stress is what I am after? Or feet to bar type stuff?

Any thoughts would be good ta!

Ham

Josh Brehm · 04-18-2006, 06:09 AM

I believe it's the muscle up, according to Tyler Hass. He said in some article that the two exercises you need to become fit are the clean and jerk and the muscle up.

Cole Hanley · 04-18-2006, 06:13 AM

how about ball slams? or sledge hammer + great big tire? or GH sit-up + wall ball throw?

so many ways to hurt, so little time...

Lincoln Brigham · 04-18-2006, 06:53 AM

Those are all good.

Kip up with weight:
http://crossfitsedona.com/Videos/Inv...WithWeight.mov

Josh Brehm · 04-18-2006, 07:03 AM

That's insane Lincoln. Did you use the 45lb plate for the entire workout?

David Wood · 04-18-2006, 07:18 AM

Absolutely, totally, over-the-top, out-of-control, sick.

I gotta try that with a 25. If I can get 10 reps, it will be amazing.

(Strictly speaking, though, I think those are "roll ups", not "kip ups" . . . which would simply be unbelievable.)

Cole Hanley · 04-18-2006, 08:01 AM

You could also head over to Gym Jones and take a look at what they call Cousins (http://www.gymjones.com/schedule.php?date=20051015). I've done a few of those and they do get your attention. If you do it with a ball slam finish they call them Inbred Cousins.

Garrett Smith · 04-18-2006, 08:12 AM

I'd like to add the Reverse Squat. It involves a pulley machine providing resistance towards the ceiling and executing a squat movement. I'm assuming most do it with a lat pulldown machine and bar. After enough weight is added, one will have to secure the feet to the ground. I have never done these, they sound interesting though.

For anterior chain MC exercise, look to the VersaClimber.

Richard Paul Ham-Williams · 04-18-2006, 08:23 AM

cheers for the speedy responses! will have a play, am thinking I may try a pull over with no back support ie feet fixed and legs on bench:-)

Cole Hanley · 04-18-2006, 09:03 AM

Lincoln,
I've got to tell you - every time I see that picture I think to myself "if I tried that I wonder what would hit the ground first - my butt or the back of my head." Amazing.

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04-18-2006, 06:02 AM	#1
Richard Paul Ham-Williams Member Profile: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Epsom Surrey Posts: 344	Hi All, Just a thought on some decent full body movements - I love the cleans and presses, I feel the benefit from head to toe and love the movement, however, it wouls seem to be predominently a lower body and back stressor (hip extension) - which is cool. My question is this - is there a decent exercise that would work the body in the opposite plains of movement? i.e. hip flexion - kinda of instead of pulling a weight up, more pulling it down from over head to feet level? Maybe the ab wheel type movement and stress is what I am after? Or feet to bar type stuff? Any thoughts would be good ta! Ham

04-18-2006, 06:09 AM	#2
Josh Brehm Member Profile: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dallas Oregon Posts: 560	I believe it's the muscle up, according to Tyler Hass. He said in some article that the two exercises you need to become fit are the clean and jerk and the muscle up.

04-18-2006, 06:13 AM	#3
Cole Hanley Member Profile: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huron OH Posts: 87	how about ball slams? or sledge hammer + great big tire? or GH sit-up + wall ball throw? so many ways to hurt, so little time...

04-18-2006, 06:53 AM	#4
Lincoln Brigham Member Profile: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kirkland WA Posts: 3,987	Those are all good. Kip up with weight: http://crossfitsedona.com/Videos/Inv...WithWeight.mov

04-18-2006, 07:03 AM	#5
Josh Brehm Member Profile: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dallas Oregon Posts: 560	That's insane Lincoln. Did you use the 45lb plate for the entire workout?

04-18-2006, 07:18 AM	#6
David Wood Departed Profile: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,303	Absolutely, totally, over-the-top, out-of-control, sick. I gotta try that with a 25. If I can get 10 reps, it will be amazing. (Strictly speaking, though, I think those are "roll ups", not "kip ups" . . . which would simply be unbelievable.)

04-18-2006, 08:01 AM	#7
Cole Hanley Member Profile: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huron OH Posts: 87	You could also head over to Gym Jones and take a look at what they call Cousins (http://www.gymjones.com/schedule.php?date=20051015). I've done a few of those and they do get your attention. If you do it with a ball slam finish they call them Inbred Cousins.

04-18-2006, 08:12 AM	#8
Garrett Smith Member Profile: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,264	I'd like to add the Reverse Squat. It involves a pulley machine providing resistance towards the ceiling and executing a squat movement. I'm assuming most do it with a lat pulldown machine and bar. After enough weight is added, one will have to secure the feet to the ground. I have never done these, they sound interesting though. For anterior chain MC exercise, look to the VersaClimber.

04-18-2006, 08:23 AM	#9
Richard Paul Ham-Williams Member Profile: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Epsom Surrey Posts: 344	cheers for the speedy responses! will have a play, am thinking I may try a pull over with no back support ie feet fixed and legs on bench:-)

04-18-2006, 09:03 AM	#10
Cole Hanley Member Profile: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huron OH Posts: 87	Lincoln, I've got to tell you - every time I see that picture I think to myself "if I tried that I wonder what would hit the ground first - my butt or the back of my head." Amazing.