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Old 12-22-2007, 08:22 PM   #1
Richard Hancock
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careful old guys

i am a 53 year old stuntman. i have been doing stunts for thirty years. i grew up a gymnast, and have been fit all my life. my gymnastics strength training was of similar methodology, however with more skill-specific exercises. unfortunately, we were not trained in olympic and power lifting. after competition gymnastics, i have maintained some of my skills, and my fitness, for my stunt career. i started crossfit training, according to the website's workout of the day, only a couple of months ago, and i jumped right in, since i have a lifetime of knowledge and experience. i am paying for it. my tissues cannot hold up to this pace, having dived in a little too fast. i will rehab, and i will work into it slower, but i will not turn away from this training. this is the perfect training for what i am trying to accomplish. anyway, my point is this, if you are older, like me, then really make sure your form is correct, and that you work into heavier weights carefully, under the supervision of a qualified trainer. i love it 5'8", 160lb., way too much bf. i cannot wait to get the bar back onto my shoulders.

Separately, I am currently training others in performance of stunts for film and tv, and i am using crossfit as my fundamental fitness workout, regardless of what stunt specific training i offer.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:24 AM   #2
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Re: careful old guys

Richard, I started CF when I was 40 (45 now), with a similar background. Competitive gymnast up to Freshman year in college...then they cut specialists from traveling (rings). Prior to CF I lifted and trained in martial arts. It took me SIX MONTHS to ramp up to the WODs as RXed. I still get sore every week. Take the ramp up slow. Start at 50% or go to the Brand X site and use their WODs. Figure you've got another 30+ years of Crossfitting, no reason to rush it. Couple of older guy or gal advantages:

1. We don't care about impressing anyone anymore. Form should be perfect.
2. We've got the cash to spend on equipment (get a C2 rower and an olympic bar and bumpers) and good food (grass fed beef, organics, etc.)
3. Usually we have a garage or basement to put the gym in.
4. We can't stay up after 10:30 and after about 3 beers I'm so bloated, I can hardly move (no alcohol abuse here).
5. We're set in our careers and once again, don't have to impress anyone.
6. Kids are older and doing their own thing.

Disadvantages are a lifetime of habits and scars and joint and muscle tissue damage. Use an active warm-up, keep your flexibility up. Be a nutrition nazi. And recover. Welcome and have fun.
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:02 AM   #3
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Re: careful old guys

Larry, Great post ! At 45 I must say, thanks to CK, I don't wake up w/ aches and pains ANYMORE! Yes, muscle soreness but I want that!

I still am a bit immature (and hope to always be) and love knowing I'm impressing others w/ my pullups, only when I'm asked, ofcourse

But that's ok, cuz' at our age it's not looked upon as bragging, right? Well, anyway, good thing I'm old enough to not care what anyone thinks, he he!

Another HUGE advantage is our wisdom and as previously stated by you two, the importance of good form first.

Good luck Richard, you're on your way
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:05 AM   #4
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Re: careful old guys

Sorry to intrude, geezers (oh ****, I mean elder statesmen... don't hurt me )... but Larry, were you really a traveling rings guy?
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Old 12-23-2007, 08:14 AM   #5
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Re: careful old guys

No problem Brandon. Your geezerhood is creeping up on you .

I'll be 57 next month, and while I can't avoid growing old, I'm doing my best to avoid growing up. Learning and playing are two juvenile activities that I continue engage in since I believe it's better to wear out than to rust out. Most of the decline of aging can be attributed to disuse.

I discovered CrossFit a couple of months ago and have shifted to it from a more traditional powerlifting/cario routine. I have arthritis and I've had both knees scoped recently. I was looking for a good match for my fitness needs: range of motion, strength, and cardio. CrossFit seems to be that match.

I like the variety, but a downside is that it can be difficult to judge how hard to approach some of the less familiar exercises, since I can do relatively well on some but poorly on others. It's definietly better to approach them with caution.
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Old 12-23-2007, 10:18 AM   #6
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Re: careful old guys

I'll be 45 in a few weeks and revel in being juvenile.

I agree with Larry's posts, there are a lot of valid points that we should all live by. But I just can't shake that feeling of wanting to be a kid, at least activity wise. Maybe it's because I look around me and see people my own age just giving up, no activity at all, just waiting to grow old.

I do have a more conscious thought about safety, though. As hard as I want to go, I know it has to be done safely. A proper warm up, good technique and form, hydration, good food and enough sleep. Muscle soreness is acceptable, injuries are not. In 20 months of Crossfitting, the only real injuries I have gotten were skin tears on my hands. No sprains or muscle tears, no broken bones, nothing. DOMS rears it's head after Linda or 400m walking lunges, full range GHD situps always leave a mark for awhile and my pride has been nicked quite a bit on these humbling WODs but nothing truly injurious. I plan on doing this for a long time so there's no sense taking undue risks.

That being said, I was at the Santa Cruz cert in November and it was held at the new SC North. They have this amazing set of pullup bars that are about 30 feet long with crossbars every 5 feet at varying heights. People were swinging like monkeys and going from bar to bar, flying in between and catching the next bar. That I had to try. I came away unscathed and validated my juvenile tendancies.
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:57 AM   #7
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Re: careful old guys

At 52 the only problem I have is that my knees and elbows have been through a lot. Decades of competitive football, wrestling, swimming, rugby and basketball will leave almost anyone a little banged up. I've learned to scale back on WODs with very high reps or risk having to take time away to heal.
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Old 12-23-2007, 12:17 PM   #8
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Re: careful old guys

I started crossfit in July 07 at age 60. I have always kept in shape (running,some weightlifting, etc.), but I was not crossfit fit. Starting crossfit for me involved some time learning all the new exercises, and just adjusting to the intensity of crossfit workouts. I started out scaling most of the WOD's per brandX. Now I try to do most WOD's as RX'd , except for those that I don't yet have the strength to do the rx'd weights. I am trying to get the strength ramped up a little quicker by adding a little more ME work per SS.

One thing that has come with age for me is knowing my body, and knowing when it is time to backoff a little. Crossfit has been great for me and I continue to improve in all areas: strength, endurance, anerobic fitness, flexibility, etc.
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Old 12-23-2007, 01:35 PM   #9
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Re: careful old guys

Yep whippersnapper...I was a ring guy 76 to 81'.
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Old 12-23-2007, 03:02 PM   #10
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Re: careful old guys

I'll be 56 on New Years Day. (we'll be doing the 'Filthy 56' at Mt Baker CrossFit on Jan 1st)
I've been CrossFitting since Aug 2005. I was in good physical condition when I discovered CF and of course, CF humbled me.

I've abused and challenged my body (ice hockey, football, gymnastics, baseball, paratrooper, martial arts, bull riding, steer wrestling, horse breaking) since birth and genetically, diagnosed with arthritis nearly 20 years ago.

CrossFit conditioning has helped to diminish my level of discomfort in my lower back, knees and shoulders.

A HUGE part of the equation, is what Larry calls, "Nutrition Nazi". If you haven't done so thus far, read 'Enter the Zone'. After becoming a 'Zone Czar' I went from 185 to 167, have more energy and I recover faster.

As an affiliate, I can't express the feelings and joy I experience while observing the changes in our members. Everyone has a 'I used to be able to....." story. CrossFit brings hope to those who have lost hope. The older we are, the less hope we have that we can really get back to where we 'used to be'. After all, we've tried countless times in the past, only to fail again. CrossFit demands, "So, where do you want to be? We'll take one step at a time, and we'll get you there. All you have to do is keep walking in the door....keep going to that garage....keep coming to this website....we promise!"

At 55 I'm leaner, stronger, lifting more weight, running faster, jumping higher, performing handstand push-ups, pull-over, windshield wipers, front and back levers, muscle-ups, and experiencing less discomfort.

I couldn't ask for a better Christmas or Birthday present!! I can't imagine what I will be able to accomplish at 56!
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