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Old 12-15-2002, 08:16 AM   #1
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Good morning gentlemen,
I had an interesting conversation with a good friend of mine (and fellow Crossfiter) who recently tried out for our SWAT team. (He was selected by the way) Our SWAT test consists of max push-ups in two mins, max pull-ups in two mins, max sit-ups in two min, a timed one mile sprint, an 18’ rope climb (no legs) and a timed 30 event obstacle course. During this test a very astute observation was passed to me by my fellow teammates, “Some are good at push ups and pull-ups and others at the run, but only the Crossfit guy is good at every thing!” Mind you my friend (the Crossfit guy) was not the best at every thing just the most consistent at every thing! The thing that really hit home with me was the fact that one of the participants ran a 5:05 mile, yet 15 minutes later could not complete the obstacle course. When approached and asked as to why he had trouble with the obstacle course he stated, “I need more work on my cardio!” (No he does not, a 3-minute O’course is purely anaerobic in nature!) When I asked how he did on the rest of test I was told he did very well at the push, pull and sit phase. My reply was that he should have worked more on mixing his anaerobic training with his aerobic. Now my point is this gentleman is also a friend of mine who chose a more traditional training regiment based on a periodization model. This path got him mixed results as he did improve in his push-ups, pull-ups, site-ups, and run time, yet he still failed to put it all together when it mattered most! (he was not selected) He is now working out with the CrossFit crew in hopes of passing the next try out. I see the same thing with my SF guys; some are studs at one event but lack in another, and the gaps in fitness can and have cost lives. In the CrossFit Journal it states nature punishes the specialist well the same holds true in combat as well! We must strive to be as well rounded athletically as possible or we will surfer at the hands of the combat gods! When bullets are flying can we afford to fail to negotiate an obstacle? Now, I know that there are many lurkers on this site who still hold true to more traditional styles of training, and that’s fine, but in combat failure is death!

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Old 12-16-2002, 09:49 AM   #2
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Derek I could not agree with you more. I will be going to FLETC in Jan. and had to pass a swim test and physical effeciency battery(PEB) with my agency before being hired. It consisted of 100yd swim, pull 8 pound brick from deep water, tread water for 7 min, suvival float 3min, bench press, illinois agility test, run 1 1/2 miles, sit and reach, and bodyfat test. I scored 95 out of a 100 for my age group (35). The sit and reach and body fat got me. I scored 20 inches on the sit and reach and I know my bodyfat is low, but not low enough to score 100. I ran the 1 1/2 in 11 min, benched 375, agility in 15 sec, hardly ever swim but passed easily. Crossfit is the way to go for sports minded individuals, law enforcement, military,etc. I just wished I had found this 20 years ago.
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Old 12-17-2002, 02:54 AM   #3
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Hey Jeff,
You know FLETC is just up the road from Jacksonville FL, so stop in and see us some time!
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Old 12-17-2002, 04:51 AM   #4
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Derek where are you located,name, etc? I will drop by.
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Old 12-17-2002, 02:55 PM   #5
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Derek,
This is Ted Socha, with Mississippi Police Corps and I wanted to tell you that your SWAT buddy that made selection was the man (Billy) who started me on the
crossfit path in a school in Utah. Since then we have traveled to Crossfit so that MPC can fully implement Crossfit in the Academy training. Additionally, we will be sending some people to see you next Feb. So, Thanks to Billy (an excellent soldier by any standard) and thanks to you for helping him. Through him you helped me. Keep it up brother!
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Old 12-17-2002, 03:58 PM   #6
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Hey Jeff,
Take I-95 South to Jacksonville.
Then take I-295 South.
Get off on Dunn Ave.
Take a Left on Dunn.
Then Right on North Campus Road(it is just past the Gate Gas Station).
Right on Capper Road, Capper will dead end into the North East Florida Criminal Justice Training Center!
Hope to see you soon, Derek



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Old 03-30-2003, 05:50 PM   #7
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im not comfortable telling "war stories" but this one was kinda cool. Yesterday while doing a performance ride with one of the fellow officers, i had the opportunity to be pressed into service. We attempted to stop a vehicle that fled on us. The driver eventually exited from the vehicle , which is where i will begin. While in the Cop-push press position ( that would be sitting in the car,holding on to the dash, legs extended into the floorboard, due to high speeds ) I exited the vehicle, ran about 10 feet, went over a 12 ( yes 12, )foot fence. We then sprinted 4 blocks before going over another fence and ending up in the duck and hide zone. The total tome of the event ? maybe 1minute15 seconds. I felt prettygood considering i had on 23 pounds of extra gear, new -high lace boots, AND had just finished the WOD about 2 hours earlier. My analysis of the event: a modified climb 2 muscle-ups, 1 600 yard dash, three squats, and some combat pushups with a low crawl. My reason for the message is to confirm something the coach spoke to me about when he was in town. The intensity of the workout will go away when pressed into service. Its true. The thing i appreciate most is the specificity of theevents and their relationship to function. Being a big motorskill guy with respect to its adaptive abilities of the body when the brain needs the muscles to get in the game, im impressed with the whole ATP-PC energy system this training enhances. I cant recall if the lactic acid kicked in at 90 seconds, but i do recall clear thinking. if it did, i adapted to it better than i hoped considering my still recovering state. anyway the combat readiness and its studies i engage in are clearly crosslinked. Next time ill tell you about the <police> Its kinda funny too
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Old 03-30-2003, 05:53 PM   #8
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im not comfortable telling "war stories" but this one was kinda cool. Yesterday while doing a performance ride with one of the fellow officers, i had the opportunity to be pressed into service. We attempted to stop a vehicle that fled on us. The driver eventually exited from the vehicle , which is where i will begin. While in the Cop-push press position ( that would be sitting in the car,holding on to the dash, legs extended into the floorboard, due to high speeds ) I exited the vehicle, ran about 10 feet, went over a 12 ( yes 12, )foot fence. We then sprinted 4 blocks before going over another fence and ending up in the duck and hide zone. The total tome of the event ? maybe 1minute15 seconds. I felt prettygood considering i had on 23 pounds of extra gear, new -high lace boots, AND had just finished the WOD about 2 hours earlier. My analysis of the event: a modified climb 2 muscle-ups, 1 600 yard dash, three squats, and some combat pushups with a low crawl. My reason for the message is to confirm something the coach spoke to me about when he was in town. The intensity of the workout will go away when pressed into service. Its true. The thing i appreciate most is the specificity of theevents and their relationship to function. Being a big motorskill guy with respect to its adaptive abilities of the body when the brain needs the muscles to get in the game, im impressed with the whole ATP-PC energy system this training enhances. I cant recall if the lactic acid kicked in at 90 seconds, but i do recall clear thinking. if it did, i adapted to it better than i hoped considering my still recovering state. anyway the combat readiness and its studies i engage in are clearly crosslinked. Next time ill tell you about the <police> Its kinda funny too
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Old 03-31-2003, 08:19 AM   #9
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These are great examples/stories. My congratulations and thanks to all of you for your dedication and service. I will only add the the CrossFit model also applies nearly unmodified to martial arts. My approach, and that of many of the top MMA athletes, is to look at fighting along the CrossFit model. Often the athlete with the superior combination of skills will prevail. The specialists can only enforce their preferred method under optimum conditions and rules. Broaden the conditions and/or remove the rules(read "approach reality") and the CrossFit approach shines.

Thanks Coach!
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