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Old 02-07-2008, 02:12 PM   #1
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sumo deadlifts and squats

how closely related are sumo deadlifts to squats? are they in between a deadlift and a squat, somewhere? i don't have a squat rack, so i do all my lifts from the floor (obviously, my front squat is limited by how much i can clean, which is not very much).
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:22 PM   #2
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Re: sumo deadlifts and squats

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how closely related are sumo deadlifts to squats? are they in between a deadlift and a squat, somewhere? i don't have a squat rack, so i do all my lifts from the floor (obviously, my front squat is limited by how much i can clean, which is not very much).
Not closely at all.
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Not closely at all.
are they closer to squats than conventional deadlifts, or even more different?
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Re: sumo deadlifts and squats

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=27112

read this thread. There is a good article on the first page that kinda goes into this.
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http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=27112

read this thread. There is a good article on the first page that kinda goes into this.
i saw one article, but there was no mention of sumo deadlifts. it did talk about the different angles of deadlifts and squats (i find rippetoe's starting strength to go into even more depth). it is my perception that my sumo deadlifts resemble my squat both in angle and muscular effort. i also recall seeing something written about sumos being kind of a 'hybrid' but i've lost hope in ever finding it again.
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Re: sumo deadlifts and squats

SDHPs are a pulling move, squats are a pushing move.
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SDHPs are a pulling move, squats are a pushing move.
sumos don't feel like pulling moves to me. they feeling like standing up with the weight and so do squats.
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sumos don't feel like pulling moves to me. they feeling like standing up with the weight and so do squats.
With SDHP, you are pulling the weight off the ground since the weight starts on the ground. With squats, the weight is on your back, so with your upward hip/glute/leg drive, you're essentially pushing the weight up.

SDHP shouldn't feel like "standing up with weight." It's a very fast, explosive movement. In fact, you should practically be jumping.

I don't know what else to say, squats and SDHPs are so different on so many levels.

Can someone please explain this better than me?
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With SDHP, you are pulling the weight off the ground since the weight starts on the ground. With squats, the weight is on your back, so with your upward hip/glute/leg drive, you're essentially pushing the weight up.

SDHP shouldn't feel like "standing up with weight." It's a very fast, explosive movement. In fact, you should practically be jumping.

I don't know what else to say, squats and SDHPs are so different on so many levels.

Can someone please explain this better than me?
i just figured out what SDHP is (sumo deadlift high pull). i'm talking about a sumo deadlift, a different movement from a SDHP.
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i just figured out what SDHP is (sumo deadlift high pull). i'm talking about a sumo deadlift, a different movement from a SDHP.
Whoops, you were--my bad! Still, very different moves.
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