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Old 11-29-2010, 12:48 PM   #1
Andrew G. Greenberg
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Please comment on a clean and jerk

230 pounds at a bodyweight of 196 pounds.

Yes, I know my back leg is straight. That's just how I jerk.

I appreciate any comments you guys have.

Thanks.

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Old 11-29-2010, 01:43 PM   #2
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Re: Please comment on a clean and jerk

Looks pretty solid. did you just want all the compliments from us?

Since there aren't glaring issues, I'm going to nitpick a bit:

It looks like you're jumping forward a touch on your clean.

I don't have the experience for a definitive diagnosis for it, and I'd need a slow-mo clip to confirm because youtube isn't doing it for me, but I think it's because you're jump/shrugging early , so the bar's swinging out a little, causing you to jump forward to chase it.
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Old 11-29-2010, 03:04 PM   #3
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Re: Please comment on a clean and jerk

It's a good looking lift overall. Could be a little quicker in the receiving position of the clean, but the speed was sufficient for this weight.

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Yes, I know my back leg is straight. That's just how I jerk.
Then just fix it. It looks like it's making both feet point left in the landing position. The back foot lands nearly flat, which is why the back leg is straight. You'll have an easier time putting a bend in the back knee if you land more on the ball of the foot.
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:46 PM   #4
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Re: Please comment on a clean and jerk

Agree with Lincoln...try getting the heel of the back foot to turn left, which will make your foot straight.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:07 PM   #5
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Re: Please comment on a clean and jerk

Yeah not bad at all, my only nitpick was the bar didn't sweep in much at all right off the floor, which caused you to hop forward but overall a very good lift. However, your shoulders in your jerk position makes me worry a little. It appears internally rotated, which can be hazardous in the long run.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:35 PM   #6
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Re: Please comment on a clean and jerk

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230 pounds at a bodyweight of 196 pounds.

Yes, I know my back leg is straight. That's just how I jerk.

I appreciate any comments you guys have.

Thanks.
lol. Lincoln beat me to it. Fix it. Get the heel off the floor and tuck the pelvis.

Also, looks like you start with your shoulders a bit behind the bar. Shoulder's should be directly over or a little in front of the bar at the start.
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Old 11-30-2010, 12:46 PM   #7
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Re: Please comment on a clean and jerk

Yes, that back foot does need to be straighter. Thanks for pointing that out, guys.
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:44 PM   #8
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Re: Please comment on a clean and jerk

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Yeah not bad at all, my only nitpick was the bar didn't sweep in much at all right off the floor, which caused you to hop forward but overall a very good lift.
My thoughts on why this happening is because of your setup. Obviously you work with Mie (since it's posted on her Youtube Channel), and you guys seem to exhibit the same issues.

Two things: 1) your shoulders start behind the bar and 2) your hips seem artificially low for your body's levers. Get your shoulders out over the bar and raise your hips up a little higher. This will give your knees some better clearance so the bar can move inward better instead of having to travel around your knees and it will keep your posterior chain engaged for a stronger finish of your pull.

give it a shot, otherwise, good lift (and yes, fix that back leg)
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:28 AM   #9
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Re: Please comment on a clean and jerk

You're letting your air out too early. This will become more of an issue as the weights go up becasue it will cause you to collapse forward a bit. You have so much more pull left in you than you showed in this lift. Someone above mentioned about more of a sweep and yes that is going to have to improve. As soon as the bar is coming past the knees you need to pull the bar into your "power zone" by pulling that bar up your thighs violently by throwing the hips more into it. Much more hip extension is needed with a violent shurg to finish. It's not so much of a violent traditional shrug, it's just where you're ending up from throwing your hips through and pushing off the floor. When you feel the elbows bend, the power ends. The shrug is you starting to pull yourself under the bar, not shrugging the bar higher. Must work on the weight distrubtion between the to legs on the finish of the jerk. That back leg is not only inefficient but will lead to an injury.

Keep working hard and be as efficient as possible. You're going to be on a never ending quest for perfection. There will always be something to get a little beit better with no matter where you are at. Olympic champions who have been doing the lifts for over 20 years still get coached every session, every day working on an aspect of the lift. Especially us in America we just haven't spent the hours required to master these movements because of our system as a whole. It's just the way it is. Best of luck to you.
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:55 AM   #10
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Re: Please comment on a clean and jerk

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230 pounds at a bodyweight of 196 pounds.

Yes, I know my back leg is straight. That's just how I jerk.

I appreciate any comments you guys have.

Thanks.
I wouldn't worry about your shoulders at the start, they are over the bar when the bar is at your knees, which is the most important thing. On the clean the main thing is to wait on the second pull a little. It's happening a little low, which is why it leaves you a little forward on the catch.

As far as the start, you definately could drive the knees back a bit better.
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