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Old 06-11-2007, 08:24 AM   #11
Garrett Smith
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Andy,
I do a lot of non-conventional exercises, so ask away if you need to. If you start a new thread, make sure to put something in the title or starting sentence that will bring my attention to it...I have less time for message boards these days, so any facilitation you can provide will be appreciated.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:57 AM   #12
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Don't worry Andy, you'll get there. I have been doing a lot of front levers, L sits, frog planches, bridges and other low level training. It has greatly increased my overall control, strength, and flexibility. At 6ft 5in 255lbs it is cool see the looks on peoples faces when a big guy can do even those basic things. I can now also go from a a frog planche into a handstand. That's not a big deal for your average gymnast but it is when you have my frame. Remember, don't compare yourself so much with your shorter commrades, just know that through your own efforts you will still achieve a lot. As others have stated, your gymnastics goals are obtainable for the simple fact that (as I see it) you do own a human body that moves the same way as everyone one elses. It just might take a little longer, that's all, but so what, you do have the rest of your life to exercise anyway, right? :msn-wink: Hang in there.

Love the video Steven. I like the wall planche idea, but even with socks on my wife would flip for having my feet on the wall in the first place.:lol:

I also liked the more technical points that were made in addition to the actual visual of the video.
Anyway, thanks for posting it.:highfive:
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:59 AM   #13
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Dr. G. I'd advise grabbing 2-3 different gymnastics type holds and working them concurrently. You'll have better progress overall. The only exception to this is if you are totally tapped out as far as training time and can't add in any more, or shift some training time to another skill.
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Old 06-11-2007, 12:51 PM   #14
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Will do, Roger.
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:19 PM   #15
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I am 5'11" and have longer legs then torso. I'm also working on planche, levers, handstand and pistol progressions. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I'm of that gifted physical makeup that puts muscle on like its a disease (I have to run constantly to maintain under 190, currently 8% body fat). This makes it very hard for me to lose weight to get a better strength to weight ratio.

So being cursed with this, I was wondering if it would be better for me to do body weight only WODs for awhile and see if this causes me to lose weight but keep strength and allow me to progress in those areas. Or, would it be better to just continue to work the normal website WODs, and keep with the progressions in the other areas, knowing I'll have to work on doing a planche at 185-190+ pounds?

Sorry to hijack this thread, but it kind of goes with what Peter talks about, and he seems to be a pretty big guy. Maybe he can elaborate more on what areas were harder because he isn't a small gymnast build.

Thanks in advance!

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Old 06-11-2007, 05:32 PM   #16
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Hijack away! =)

It seems like we share a build, m'friend. I'm sure any responses will be quite valuable for me to see as well!
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:40 PM   #17
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I think, George, if your aim is to become skilled at bodyweight movements, then it would be beneficial to more of them in your workouts and metcon WOD stuff. If your goal is overall fitness, GPP ala crossfit, then I wouldn't be too concerned since then they are merely another conditioning exercise.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:03 AM   #18
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Metcon will NOT absolutely NOT get you the planch if your a taller guy. The amount of strenght required in your tricep alone has to be staggering. Relative strenght is not gained through metcon or circuits.

I suggest super heavy weighted dips to compliment any planch training. This WILL propell you about 2x as fast especially if you'r a bigger guy.

Ever since I started doing weighted dips I went from being platoed at tuck planch for 30-40 seconds to being able to progress to 10 second holds of advance tuck and even a few seconds of straddle.

Steven has a great article on how to create your own workout guide. After reading it, althought I knew most, it made it clear that I need to establish GOALS and tailor my workout TOWARDS those goals.

Needless to say, I cut tons of light weight high rep junk out and added a few sets to the high weight exercises. Workouts are less volumous, more intense AND showing better results!
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:31 AM   #19
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i remember jim over at beastskills also mentioning the benefits of weighed dips in planche progressions.

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Old 06-12-2007, 09:28 AM   #20
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Mirza: Not much triceps strength is required for a planche as you should feel it all in your chest, shoulders and biceps. Triceps strength is only required if you're working towards a planche pushup... If you're feeling it in your triceps, you should lock your arms out; then you'll feel how hard the exercise really is, hah.

Super heavy weighted dips help cause they hit the anterior delt and chest pretty heavily. The triceps strength from that won't really help at all. :-)
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