Food for thought

Kurt Ronald Mueller · 03-10-2006, 12:51 PM

Any brain foods out there that help increase cognition, memory, concentration?

Thanks,
Kurt

Ben Kaminski · 03-10-2006, 12:53 PM

Fish oil, caffeine, ZMA, to name a few off the top of my head.

Kevin McKay · 03-10-2006, 01:12 PM

What is ZMA?

Scott Kustes · 03-10-2006, 02:49 PM

Long answer: ZMA is a scientifically designed anabolic mineral formula. It contains Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate plus Magnesium Aspartate and vitamin B-6, and is an all-natural product that has been clinically proven to significantly increase anabolic hormone levels and muscle strength in trained athletes.

Short answer: A zinc/magnesium supplement. The only supplement I take other than fish oil (which isn't a supplement around here).

Taha Mohamedali · 03-10-2006, 04:57 PM

Scott do you cycle it or take it as a daily before bed? And do you use it everyday or only on days when you have a hard workout?

Do you konw anything about developing a tolerance to it?

Thanks!

Scott Kustes · 03-10-2006, 09:53 PM

I don't cycle...I just take it daily before bed pretty much daily. Sometimes I'll skip it if I didn't workout that day, but I'm pretty religious with it. I don't know anything about developing a tolerance to it. Someone with more knowledge may be able to help on that.

Robert Wolf · 03-10-2006, 10:22 PM

Sardines are great. DHA/EPA and a nifty little molecule DMAE.

joseph elberti · 03-10-2006, 10:25 PM

Piracetam combined with a good choline source.

Im telling you... I came into grad school only able to study 20 minutes before being wiped out... I can now do about 5 hours (with well timed breaks to further improve retention, of course).

bulknutrition.com good, reliable source for piracetam.

I get gpc choline from nutricraze.com.

Both places, best bang for your buck- at least as far as my research has taken me.

Google nootropics.

I would be suffering something fierce if it wasnt for them. There is a cumulative effect too- I noticed a constant, gradual improvement for up to about a year- and I have plateaued- but I am most definatly fireing on all cylanders (despite my inability to spell, I am AMAZED at what this has done for my ability to memorize and cram!)

Safe stuff too- they gave up trying to find the LD50 for piracetam, nontoxic, and theres lots of good solid research backing it up.

Ben Kaminski · 03-11-2006, 06:34 AM

Joseph, if I were to try those things based on your recommendation, how long before a noticeable effect would be expected? With a testimonial like that my curiosity is piqued, but I'm not going to embark on a year-long experiment. Thanks!

Steve Liberati · 03-11-2006, 08:56 AM

Foods are very questionable in my opinion for this purpose. Far better off reading a book, completing a crossword puzzle, or learning a new language if you are trying to increase cognition, memory, and concentration.

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03-10-2006, 12:51 PM	#1
Kurt Ronald Mueller Departed Profile: Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 77	Any brain foods out there that help increase cognition, memory, concentration? Thanks, Kurt

03-10-2006, 12:53 PM	#2
Ben Kaminski Member Profile: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cincinnati OH Posts: 875	Fish oil, caffeine, ZMA, to name a few off the top of my head.

03-10-2006, 01:12 PM	#3
Kevin McKay Member Profile: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: albany ca Posts: 1,110	What is ZMA?

03-10-2006, 02:49 PM	#4
Scott Kustes Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 1,258	Long answer: ZMA is a scientifically designed anabolic mineral formula. It contains Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate plus Magnesium Aspartate and vitamin B-6, and is an all-natural product that has been clinically proven to significantly increase anabolic hormone levels and muscle strength in trained athletes. Short answer: A zinc/magnesium supplement. The only supplement I take other than fish oil (which isn't a supplement around here).

03-10-2006, 04:57 PM	#5
Taha Mohamedali Member Profile: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 99	Scott do you cycle it or take it as a daily before bed? And do you use it everyday or only on days when you have a hard workout? Do you konw anything about developing a tolerance to it? Thanks!

03-10-2006, 09:53 PM	#6
Scott Kustes Member Profile: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 1,258	I don't cycle...I just take it daily before bed pretty much daily. Sometimes I'll skip it if I didn't workout that day, but I'm pretty religious with it. I don't know anything about developing a tolerance to it. Someone with more knowledge may be able to help on that.

03-10-2006, 10:22 PM	#7
Robert Wolf Member Profile: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chico CA Posts: 2,669	Sardines are great. DHA/EPA and a nifty little molecule DMAE.

03-10-2006, 10:25 PM	#8
joseph elberti Departed Profile: Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 83	Piracetam combined with a good choline source. Im telling you... I came into grad school only able to study 20 minutes before being wiped out... I can now do about 5 hours (with well timed breaks to further improve retention, of course). bulknutrition.com good, reliable source for piracetam. I get gpc choline from nutricraze.com. Both places, best bang for your buck- at least as far as my research has taken me. Google nootropics. I would be suffering something fierce if it wasnt for them. There is a cumulative effect too- I noticed a constant, gradual improvement for up to about a year- and I have plateaued- but I am most definatly fireing on all cylanders (despite my inability to spell, I am AMAZED at what this has done for my ability to memorize and cram!) Safe stuff too- they gave up trying to find the LD50 for piracetam, nontoxic, and theres lots of good solid research backing it up.

03-11-2006, 06:34 AM	#9
Ben Kaminski Member Profile: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cincinnati OH Posts: 875	Joseph, if I were to try those things based on your recommendation, how long before a noticeable effect would be expected? With a testimonial like that my curiosity is piqued, but I'm not going to embark on a year-long experiment. Thanks!

03-11-2006, 08:56 AM	#10
Steve Liberati Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pennsauken NJ Posts: 1,649	Foods are very questionable in my opinion for this purpose. Far better off reading a book, completing a crossword puzzle, or learning a new language if you are trying to increase cognition, memory, and concentration.