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Old 07-12-2014, 11:53 PM   #181
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Re: Have we all seen this yet?

Google calls it the NPPL.
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Old 07-13-2014, 03:54 AM   #182
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Re: Have we all seen this yet?

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if you watched the movie Dodgeball, this feel like something that Gordon would watch on ESPN 8.


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I think they need to take Steve Austin's new show as a hint and add like boffer sticks in there.

So it basically becomes American Gladiator ish except they fight each other.
I cant believe nobody else has mentioned his show, i thought the first episode was pretty awesome. I love how that big dude got OWNED in the trough challenge, look on his face was priceless.
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:27 PM   #183
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Re: Have we all seen this yet?

I miss American gladiators... growing up I watched that show and wish I had been old enough to do it...
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Old 07-14-2014, 09:54 PM   #184
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Re: Have we all seen this yet?

So, I tried watching the draft. I listened to Budding's initial talk, something about NBC, then he said each team had 3 minutes to make a pick. They cut over to some people on the couch trying to guess who'd be picked ...zzzzzzzzz. From that point on, all I did was fast forward 20 or so times to see who was picked. Very boring. Probably watched a total of 10 mins of that 2hrs and I don't think I missed anything. Probably the same as any other draft process for the NFL or NBA (which I never watch either). SO I'll give them a pass on this, I wasn't expecting much.

Then I started to watch one of the matches they put on afterwards. I started the video, fast forwarded about 20 mins to find an event and found one. It was something like 100 reps - OHS, weighted pull-ups, muscle ups, OHS. Something like that anyway. It was literally something I had seen before weeks ago and if it wasn't the same, there was 6 degrees of separation. Maybe a sandbag in place of a wall ball for the weighted PU. Then they said they'd repeat that same match again ... wait , what? Watch the same thing again ? No thanks.

Fast forwarded again and they were doing a G2O ladder again (like last time I watched). That wasn't really very interesting either - and I love watching the clean and snatch ladders at the games. Even though they had the little graphic to show who was ahead - I still wasn't sure what was happening. Maybe I'm too old but it was literally too fast. Like watching an ants nest being disturbed. Just people running around lifting light weights - there was no point lifting the big weights as you can lift 150 twice, twice as fast and be guaranteed the 300# to your total. Rather than attempt 300 and fail. "No risk/reward attempt". I don't think the commentators helped much. They tried talking up strategy and such, but it seemed irrelevant. Maybe once the commentators figure out how to talk about this it will help, but for now, there's nothing here for me.

Funny fact: I was watching at work - someone came in to where I sit, took one look at me and laughed. He thought I was reviewing policies. The most boringest task ever devised. I will struggle hard to stay awake and I feel punch-drunk after a few hours of doing it. He cracked up when I said I was watching youtube - I honestly could have taken a nap; I was worse off that policy review.
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Old 07-17-2014, 10:33 PM   #185
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Re: Have we all seen this yet?

I agree with the above, but on the other hand would like to see some type of league survive to bolster fitness and help support the athletes.

What suggestions would you have to make it better?

I wonder if it had 5 events each with a different focus hence needing a varied team and maybe make one or two of them a team chipper?

Something like:

Pure Strength Event--clean ladders etc. Could have 1-3 team members contribute to some type of toal.
Gymnastic Event--metcon that focuses on gymnastics--MUs, pullups etc.
2 person Team Power event
Strength Endurance Event
Full Team Event
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Old 07-18-2014, 04:51 AM   #186
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Re: Have we all seen this yet?

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I agree with the above, but on the other hand would like to see some type of league survive to bolster fitness and help support the athletes.

What suggestions would you have to make it better?

I wonder if it had 5 events each with a different focus hence needing a varied team and maybe make one or two of them a team chipper?

Something like:

Pure Strength Event--clean ladders etc. Could have 1-3 team members contribute to some type of toal.
Gymnastic Event--metcon that focuses on gymnastics--MUs, pullups etc.
2 person Team Power event
Strength Endurance Event
Full Team Event
I kind of like the thought process behind this BUT a couple things come to mind:
1. Most people up top would probably not like having fixed types of events all the time because it partly takes away from the be prepared for anything anytime mentality.

2. Not to be nit picky but a clean ladder is definitely NOT a PURE strength event, if anything its far more of a Power event, and it being contested in a ladder style greatly takes away from the pure part, and totally adds in an element of endurance.
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Old 07-18-2014, 07:37 AM   #187
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Re: Have we all seen this yet?

I was lumping heavy power with pure strength movements. Trying to avoid turning it into a strongman light competition. But agree it is not a pure strength movement.

My main thought was have general categories but the events themselves and their order might change from competition to competition.

So one competition may have the "strength" event first as find your 1RM deadlift in 10 minutes (one male and one female competitor to total).

Then another competition may have the "strength" event 4th for pushing a heavy prowler down the whole grid for time.
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Old 07-18-2014, 03:41 PM   #188
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Re: Have we all seen this yet?

Some items that might improve the format a bit more for me - over and above the time commitment.

- I don't really want to see the same workout repeated. But if they must, then they could have some additional limitations. Like half the team run heat 1, then other half run heat 2. Maybe they up the weights in the second go around.

- Things like sled pushes and snatches are more interesting to watch than pull-ups or HSPU with wall-balls held between legs.

- Please don't do anything novel like "max GHD situp wall ball tosses" although I wouldn't be opposed to seeing them overhead toss a heavy sand bag the length of the grid. Race that - progressively heavier sandbag, get your team to the other end by overhead tossing the thing. Kind of dumb but I think I'd actually watch it.

- I like the idea of mixing in more "specialist" events in addition to full team. Where we do see the 2-3 gymnasts walking on their hands in a relay. Or the 2-3 power guys doing max clean ladder (no clean ladder sprints or whatever we are to call existing format). It seems like everything can't just be a tag in tag out full team event. Some variety would be nice - that includes variety of events, variety of people on field, and variety of speed of events (it's not always people running around).

- Events from week-week or whatever the time period are should change. Maybe if there are "5 grids" to be performed at an event, they have 15 or so to choose from.

- Events like the zig-zag sprint at the games was awesome to watch and is easy enough to run. So rather than have 1 event with the two teams racing. Have a head-head sprint event. I don't know how many are on a team - say it's 8 girls, and 8 guys. You match all your team 1-8 and then there are 8 races. From here, the 4 winners race (winner 1 vs winner 8 etc) and ultimately, you have a head-head match between the two fastest people. Just run them through every couple minutes. Odd numbered races are easy to account for. I want to see the spectacle of two people going head-head in a foot race. That's pretty raw - especially if you have short distance with a change of direction.

- Additionally, they need to get those commentators up to speed. I don't think they have a good formula yet - they're too busy trying to give us strategy or something - like there's two "color" guys or two Monday 1/4 backs. I just can't put my finger on it - they just don't know how to create the drama or commentate the event yet. CF Regionals had the same problem in a number of regions (and unfortunately, the way Miranda Oldroyd does it is not the answer - that's like trying to listen to the weather from someone who's fresh out of "news anchor" school). It's not unlike golf commentators whispering and/or the horse-race commentators yelling out horse names over and over, and everything in between. There's a reason why they do this ..... so it's easier to take a nap when the golf is on

- Maybe they could have 4 teams at each match. They can still race two and a time, but would be more round-robin style going into semi's and final. They also all don't have to do the same **** - there could be a bye built-in for logistics. So maybe they all play each other over 3 gridmatcheventthingamagiggies gaining points. Then 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3. Highest finisher "home advantage" is to chose the event.

I recognize it's easy to sit here and poke at it and that it is new. But at the same time, even they must be able to see that they're hyping up a product that needs some tweaks. I doubt it is lost on them and I do hope they can get it right.
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Old 07-29-2014, 09:39 PM   #189
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Re: Have we all seen this yet?

http://games.crossfit.com/article/cr...ze-purse-grows wfs

I wonder if the the fact that the NPGL is paying all the athletes, forced the Games to start paying further down the placing.
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:02 AM   #190
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Re: Have we all seen this yet?

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I wonder if the the fact that the NPGL is paying all the athletes, forced the Games to start paying further down the placing.
I would tend to think it accelerated the process but it was likely in the plans already.

Its noteworthy and commendable that they pay the Masters at all, much less the amounts they do, I don't think any other sports pay nearly as much.

Same goes for the NPGL's rule about having at least one 40+ athlete on each team

The prize money was clearly top heavy, too much so to support enough full timers to keep the sport going and growing.

Also at closing ceremonies of the Games Dave Castro announced ALL the athletes from 20th to 1st so they got some name recognition.

The athletes are also helped by the 1st, 2nd, 3rd place prize money for each event especially those that don't have a shot at the podium.
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