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2.) I do crossfit everyday 3.) If you're using those handful of athletes as the argument for why CF is better you're barking up the wrong tree, becuase as annoying and arrogant as Chuck is he's trained alot more elite level athletes than CF has at this point. 4.) Asking valid questions about why we do something or don't doe smore to serve improving CF than blindly following it. If it weren't for valid concerns CF will still be doing almost purely high rep work and not the regulary interspersed strength/power WOD's we have now which obviously have improved CF, not deterred from it. |
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You haven't given me anything to ponder over. Do you do cleans and snatches to increase peak power production, or just as a means to produce moderate power over broad reps? YOu can one or the other but not both. If moderate power production is your goal why not do weighted jumps, or dumbbell swings and snatches, or kettlebells? Why specifically power cleans. Please tell me oh clueless one. |
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I think his point was that the only way to train for the CrossFit games would be to Crossfit. Poliquin's athletes aren't any more "elite" than Crossfit's than basketball players are than baseball players. It's like comparing apples and grapefruit.
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I agree the only way to do get better at CF is to do CF, but to compare most of the CF athletes to the world class athletes in sports like baseball and basketball and football is a far cry. I'm not putting down our top CF gamers, but being in terrific broad based shape is not the same as being a great athlete. |
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If you view CF as a sport, than Poliquin is contradicting his own argument of specific response to implied demands argument. Since if very broad fitness is required for your "sport" than training with a wide range of exercises, energy systems, and rep/power schemes is the best training. |
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You may CrossFit every day, BUT YOU HAVEN'T DONE GRACE. Bottom line: when the Chuckster sends some athletes to the Games and they dominate, I'll stand up and pay attention. For now, you keep asking questions you ignore the answers to, and have not even apparently had the guts to try one of the high rep O-lifting WOD's. Intentional or not, this is being obtuse past the point where troll is the most relevant word. You have received a dozen answers to your question, but the only one that appears acceptable is to say that there is no exercise physiology textbook we can point to which validates our position. Speaking for myself, people like you are the precise reason organizations like the NSCA do more harm than good. Not only are you criticizing something you don't understand, you don't WANT to understand. You want us to come back around to your way of thinking, and are uncomprehending that we might somehow continute to be obtuse, as seen from the porthole you look out of. |
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Why? Many CrossFitters have proven otherwise. What's ironic about this whole conversation is that the only dogmatic blindness that is being spewed are "facts" that have been dispelled countless times by the CrossFit programming. Or maybe we shouldn't do pull-ups two days in a row either? ![]() Quote:
Yes, KB versions of the snatch and C&J also work to the same end, which makes them a valuable tool in the toolbox, right next to the barbell version. The top CrossFitters certainly have no problem stepping from a 1RM C&J to "Grace." Take Pat Barber for example, he has a 270ish C&J (BW 165), and can hold his own in the high-rep department. The same can be said of many others that aren't as gifted/well-trained as Josh Everett. The point is, with the proper implementation and additional skill work (which, I probably need to remind you as well, is considered a part of the CrossFit programming) high-rep O-lifting doesn't create the problems that the "experts" continue to claim. You aren't being derided for questioning CrossFit, you're being derided because you aren't asking anything new. Answers to every single question that you have ever asked has been addressed at some point by the powers that be. Forgive me if I expect someone to do their homework before questioning the rationale. Several months ago I suggested that you spent more time reading the archives and less time questioning. That suggestion still stands. - Alex |
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