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Fitness Theory and Practice. CrossFit's rationale & foundations. Who is fit? What is fitness? |
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Re: Charles Poliquin on Crossfit
AKA: Why would anyone do something extra? LOL Seriously, with a questions like this, you are only pushing people away from Poliquin ("mainstream") and towards CF. You see, it really is as simple as we say it is. In fact, your points have devolved into "why do anything at all?" questions.... Going by your responses, it is quite obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about . I would agree that closing this thread is a good idea. There is no point allowing people like Phillip the opportunity to perpetuate mindless drivel.
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Re: Charles Poliquin on Crossfit
Well if you want to do something extra, why not run a half marathon after a WOD or a full marathon, or a century bike ride.
NEWS FLASH! I'm not trying to convince people to do things Poliquins way, i even stated several times I DON'T EVEN LIKE HIM. My points have never devolved into "why do anything at all" My point has always been, why are we doing this, and is it the best to do it, or just something we do, because we always have. Others on the board agree with me as witnessed by the emails i often get from people asking advice and stating they agree with me on many issues |
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Re: Charles Poliquin on Crossfit
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I don't know what organization you're talking about, because it is not the NSCA. The NSCA has advocated full depth squats for years depending on the athlete and the sport.I also don't know which organization you are talking about since the NSCA also recommends over head work especially the C&J, The Push Press, and The Push Jerk. I would like to know where or who told you that the NSCA is against either of those movements as a standard mission statement. In fact to become and NSCA CSCS, one has to be proficient in those lifts. What you may find in the journals is specific studies focusing on specific athletes for whom certain over head movements were contraindicated. In fact every single exercise upon which CF is based has been validated and thoroughly researched and promoted by the NSCA for years. Tabata's, plyometrics, over head squats, Olympic Lifts, interval training, daily undulating periodization, all of the things that CF promotes. So I ask you again, exactly what is the NSCA doing that is a disservice? |
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Re: Charles Poliquin on Crossfit
my two cents...
ath·lete Pronunciation: \ˈath-ˌlēt, ÷ˈa-thə-ˌlēt\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlētēs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest Date: 15th century : a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina Crossfitters aren't athletes? By that definition, how can you say CF does not produce elite ATHLETES?? The top guys/girls seem to be elite athletes and everybody else is working there way to become one!! Keep pushing everybody. |
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I understand your thinking for researching and studying exercise protocols but as came out in your discussion with Robb Wolf there are very few effective and well produced studies especially by the NSCA. To quote Mark Rippetoe on Strength Mill......"I have a study on my desk that claims to investigate the effectiveness of the valsalva during training, the exercises of which consist of knee extensions and flexions, shoulder abductions and adductions, and elbow extensions and flexions. All done on machines. All composed of single-joint pattycake bulls**t. None of which have any component of spinal loading, the very thing the valsalva stabilizes. This is the kind of s**t that caused me to drop my CSCS." Also there are issues of who is producing these studies.... To quote from "Conventional Wisdom"...."For example, Volume 20, number 4 of the NSCA’s Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research published a total of 42 papers, five (12%) of which list the editor-in-chief as a co-author, and 17 (40%) of which list associate editors (the ones doing the peer reviewing) as authors, either singly or in groups. One associate editor is listed on five papers. Another associate editor has 11 of his 14 published papers (according to the National Library of Medicine’s catalog) published in the JSCR. The editor-in-chief has published 11 of his past 25 authored or co-authored articles in this journal. This level of cronyism is not the norm for most reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals, most of which are concerned less about the number of papers they publish and more about their quality and academic reputation." "What is Meaningful" also demonstrates through numerous examples that many studies produce programs far less effective than being carried out by people coaching in the real world. I think Crossfit is one of the few programs producing a huge quantity of easy to understand, open and useful information from an outstanding and ever expanding pool of top quality experts. |
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Re: Charles Poliquin on Crossfit
Why does this conversation continue? Who cares? If Crossfit works for you, do it. The more you try and justify your methods the less people will take you seriously. Just drop it.
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Like I previously posted, Poliquin represents a "mainstream" mindset, so once again you are not paying attention or are just posting this crap to **** people off for the hell of it--not the way to go if you want to be taken seriously. Either pay attention or don't participate. Quote:
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Re: Charles Poliquin on Crossfit
The wheels have come off this one, and it's sitting there helplessly, spinning it's axles and burning up people's energy.
Time to put it out of its misery. |
Last edited by David Wood; 12-18-2008 at 10:00 AM.. Reason: corrected typos |
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