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Old 08-04-2014, 02:47 AM   #31
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Re: Time to jump off that gluten free train...

That is true, but there is a reason why vast majority of studies are done on rodents and you just cant fully dispute a study by saying "you are not a mouse".

Studies like the one I posted and plenty of users self-reporting problems show some corelation between gluten and diseases or just general wellbeing.
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:15 AM   #32
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Re: Time to jump off that gluten free train...

The placebo effect is a powerful thing.
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:33 AM   #33
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Re: Time to jump off that gluten free train...

Its proven that placebo cant "cure" allergies, yet many people report improvements when sacking gluten.
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:46 AM   #34
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Re: Time to jump off that gluten free train...

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Did anyone read the full study or just abstracts and articles about the study?
I did which makes all of the arm chair analysis by people who didn't read it pretty entertaining.

The main thing that everyone seems to miss is that the study's authors take for granted that wheat is a cause of IBS. They have demonstrated that in prior studies. This study was simply trying to isolate what in wheat causes IBS. Prior thinking was that it was gluten but the authors believe it may be FODMAPs. So yeah, you can jump off that gluten free train if you make sure you consume your gluten isolated from wheat products.

The other thing missed is that this study only dealt with the effects of gluten on IBS and not weight management, depression or the variety of other issues that people avoid gluten in hopes of solving.

Speaking of gluten and depression, the authors of the original study recently published another study where they linked gluten to depression (in an RCT, aka the gold standard):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24689456 (wfs)

Oddly this didn't seem to get any news coverage.
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Old 08-14-2014, 03:35 AM   #35
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Re: Time to jump off that gluten free train...

Alright, a pretty simple interview that talks about both studies, the one from OP ans the second about depression (last post by David):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCV3PM1wDf8 wfs and only 4min long, so make sure to watch it.

I think nuff said and even this thread should be renamed as its not accurate and could lead people into false assumptions.
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Old 08-14-2014, 05:09 PM   #36
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Re: Time to jump off that gluten free train...

You gluten phobes crack me up, now a study where people with IBS were given gluten for three days shows that gluten makes people depressed so everyone should avoid gluten. Sound logic.
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:11 PM   #37
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Re: Time to jump off that gluten free train...

All Im saying that you, and a lot others, misinterpreted the study and that the same study, that suppose to make people "jump off a gluten free train" actually does not confirm that, while you, and many others, thought it does.
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Old 08-15-2014, 05:39 AM   #38
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All Im saying that you, and a lot others, misinterpreted the study and that the same study, that suppose to make people "jump off a gluten free train" actually does not confirm that, while you, and many others, thought it does.
I didn't misinterpret anything and am likely one of the few that actually read the whole thing. People have food sensitivities, no one is doubting that but this sudden vilification of gluten is beyond hilarious. There are people who truly need to avoid gluten (celiacs), then there are people who have some sensitivities to certain foods where gluten happens to be present, and then there is the majority of us.

I don't even know where you types come up with this stuff, was is the one line in the paleo solution or something about gluten sensitivity that he completely pulled out of no where? For all the good that fad diet has done in getting people to eat more whole foods it sure has created a bunch of hypochondriacs.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:18 PM   #39
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...I am sure the anti-gluten crowd will come up with a new make believe condition to keep peddling their gluten free cupcakes though ...
Well that didn't take very long...

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What about lectins? I believes its them thats making grains unhealthy for humans, according to some study in 2013 or even newer? I can look it up tomorrow, not at home atm...
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Old 08-18-2014, 07:43 PM   #40
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Re: Time to jump off that gluten free train...

In my experience, people would be MUCH better off in just figuring out what foods give them issues, and staying away from them rather than just avoiding everything gluten.

There is definitely an anti-gluten push which I don't really understand.
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