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Old 01-31-2010, 05:54 PM   #1
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Zercher Deadlifts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Xqq...eature=related [95% sure link is safe but the background music might have a swear word, didn't listen to it all the way through]

Are these safe? My back hurts just looking at it... thoughts?
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:23 PM   #2
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

Yes, if you progressively increase the resistance and start light. A great overall exercise.
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Old 02-01-2010, 07:56 AM   #3
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Xqq...eature=related [95% sure link is safe but the background music might have a swear word, didn't listen to it all the way through]

Are these safe? My back hurts just looking at it... thoughts?
If by safe, you mean safe bet to destroy your back, than yea safe. Starting light, progressive or not....If you know spinal biomechanics, those are not safe.
If those are safe, then the most critical part of many major lifts for safety would NOT be to preserve the lumbar lordotic curve.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:22 AM   #4
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

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If by safe, you mean safe bet to destroy your back, than yea safe. Starting light, progressive or not....If you know spinal biomechanics, those are not safe.
If those are safe, then the most critical part of many major lifts for safety would NOT be to preserve the lumbar lordotic curve.
While I agree with you, I am curious to hear a chiro's view on rounded back lifting whether it be strongman or just everyday life.

I think the zercher DL craze started on Sherdog and I wish it had never come about. Its just a bastardization of how a Z-squat is meant to be done.
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:24 AM   #5
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

If you're interested in Zercher lifts, check out the Zercher squat. You basically perform a standard DL, then rest the bar on your knees and hook your arms under it prior to squatting. With a little practice and a light start you can perform it with propoer spinal alignment throughout, or at least while under load.

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Old 02-01-2010, 09:52 AM   #6
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

Your back will round at some point if place sports, are active or have to move heavy things that aren't barbells.

Seeing as a zercher deadlift will be far below your deadlift, I don't see the problem with this.
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Old 02-01-2010, 10:47 AM   #7
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

If you have enough strength already, and aren't stupid about it, you should be fine.

I won't be doing any though.
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Your back will round at some point if place sports, are active or have to move heavy things that aren't barbells.

Seeing as a zercher deadlift will be far below your deadlift, I don't see the problem with this.
It doesn't mean that it's safe. And while it may not cause immediate lower back pain, that doesn't mean that it's not going to contribute to a failure later.
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Old 02-01-2010, 12:21 PM   #9
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

You back isn't always going to be in great position, especially outside of the gym. Curved back training has it's place in strengthening the the back for times where proper lordotic curve is not possible.

I'm not suggesting you use your 5rm for these.
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Re: Zercher Deadlifts

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You back isn't always going to be in great position, especially outside of the gym. Curved back training has it's place in strengthening the the back for times where proper lordotic curve is not possible.

I'm not suggesting you use your 5rm for these.
Curved that far? With that much weight?

Why train for such an extremely rare condition?
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