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Old 10-25-2004, 11:47 AM   #1
Jonathon Edward
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I decided to switch from Berardi's Massive Eating to the Zone after growing tired of the daily insulin spikes and related zombie like behavior. I'm looking through the CFJ issue 21: Zone Meal Plans and am trying to figure out where I fit into the Zone. I follow the standard WOD schedule and am a very active person. I'm 5'7 and weigh about 160 lb (about 9-10% bodyfat). I'm thinking that I should be going with the Athletic, well muscled male block scheme? Any thoughts?

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Old 10-25-2004, 10:04 PM   #2
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Jay,

This topic came up at the recent CF seminar. Greg Amundson, who I think most here would agree is extremely fit (and 200 lbs to boot), is actually on the 5/2 plan (Large Male). Some people were shocked by this. A few suggested that he might up the snack intake to 3 blocks and experiment a bit from there.

But the bottom line was that Coach and Lauren said that in their clinical practice (they estimate they've worked with 5,000-10,000 people on their diet), they can count on a single hand the number of times they've actually recommended the 5/5 plan (Athletic, well-muscled male).

Also, you might refer back to Robb's post on his experiences with the 5/5 plan:

http://www.crossfit.com/cgi-bin/disc...7986#POST17986

So I guess what I'm trying to say is that you may want to start conservatively--perhaps the 5/2 plan--and go from there. If you find you're still hungry on this plan after a couple of weeks, or you're losing muscle mass, then incrementally ratchet up the size of the snacks, as well as the fat level.

The nice thing about the Zone, I've found, is that it offers a degree of precision, which can lend itself to fine tuning in cases like this.

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Old 10-26-2004, 05:06 AM   #3
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Mike, thanks for your post. I'm between 200 - 205 lbs and cannot do the 5/5 but do well on the 5/2. I wondered if I had some sort of metabolic problem! 5/2 is working for me.
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Old 10-26-2004, 07:29 AM   #4
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Very interesting stuff. Thanks a lot guys. I think I'll start out with the 5/2 and tinker from there.

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Old 10-27-2004, 05:46 PM   #5
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I'm a 6'2" 210 lb guy and I'm on 5/2 as well. My body fat is down around 8% and I've found this the optimal combo. I tried 5/5 for about a month and felt like was eating way too much. Every now and then I up one of 2 blocks to 3 or 4 depending on the WOD.
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Old 10-28-2004, 01:32 PM   #6
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Amundson does the 5/2? Isn't that only 1700 cals or so?
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Old 10-28-2004, 03:39 PM   #7
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I'm sure he loads up on the mono fat to get the cals to a suitable level.
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Old 10-28-2004, 04:28 PM   #8
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Chris is right, he does bump the fat blocks up, but not by that much. 2x is what he said, I'm pretty sure.

I did the math one time and if I recall correctly he comes out somewhere around 2100 to 2300 calories (depending on how much additional fat is added).

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Old 10-28-2004, 05:38 PM   #9
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Given his weight and activity level, he's definitely calorie restricted. Body builders with his figure eat twice that much..
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Old 10-29-2004, 08:30 AM   #10
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I am not familiar with this 5/2 and 5/5 plans that ya'll talk about. Is this from a book or a post somewhere? I am 218 lbs and a bit overweight, although my frame size is muscular build, I still have the spare tire, I have lost a lot since starting CF just 2 months ago and I have altered my diet but I need to consume a lot of food b/c it seems that I am always hungry but I dont want to gain the weight back but at the same time I dont want to lose the lean muscle I have gained so far. Help?
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