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Old 03-31-2006, 01:53 PM   #1
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There is a thread here "Training to defend one's or training to fight in the cage." I believe John Hackelman has found a way to do both. Five of us traveled last weekend to the CrossPit seminar. We were all impressed that John’s street philosophy was indistinguishable from his ring philosophy. Strikes that he trains his fighters to use in the ring need to work in the street. They would rather win by striking but they’ll win anyway they can. Whether you are a ring fighter or a RBMA the seminar has a lot to offer.

Brand X’s first CrossPit class is scheduled for Monday night. Should be fun.
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Old 03-31-2006, 05:52 PM   #2
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Good stuff! How much wrestling does John teach? I think that is what makes his style of fighting work, a very strong base in wrestling. That way you can choose the range to fight in.
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Old 03-31-2006, 10:48 PM   #3
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Hey Jeff

That is pretty cool, I think the only real diffrence between the two is in the intent, in a competetive fight you know that your opponent can only do so much to you before the ref step's in, when an unknown person attack's you unexpectedly your intent has got to be diffrent i.e. win at all cost.

I don't see people differentiating this alot of time's, the stuff used in the ring is good, when someone attack's you unexpectedly though the intent you use it with is diffrent than your intent in competition.

Most people know the intent is diffrent i just think it need's stated occasionaly just as a reminder.

surviving doesn't necessarily mean you win, winning though alway's mean's you survive.

Just MHO.


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Old 03-31-2006, 11:31 PM   #4
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Looking forward to the CrossPit classes. Combining two of my favorite things!
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Old 03-31-2006, 11:43 PM   #5
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What kind of emphasis on precontact psychology and awareness/avoidance is given? Or is this more of a ground and pound Ring/Street approach?
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Old 04-02-2006, 08:57 PM   #6
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The philosphy when on the ground is to simply get back to your feet for striking. John did show us some limited ground stuff, but his fighters rather strike. This seminar was level 1 also. There may be more ground with upper levels.
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:25 AM   #7
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"The philosphy when on the ground is to simply get back to your feet for striking"

What I am saying is it is not that simple to get back on your feet. Chuck makes it work because he has D1 level wrestling to back up his world class striking.
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Old 04-03-2006, 11:05 AM   #8
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John did cover a couple of escapes from the mount as well as some takedown defenses and clinch work. Bear in mind it was only a 2 day course and CFHQ is not equipped for serious takedowns or ground work.
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:42 PM   #9
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Matt,
You are exactly right, getting back to your feet is not easy. The only way to help get to your feet is learn some basic movements on the ground, but you don't want to stay on the ground in the street to many variables.
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Old 04-12-2006, 07:53 AM   #10
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