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Old 10-29-2010, 09:16 PM   #21
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Re: Knees go in

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watch his knees...he must be going too heavy

people have different movement patterns...I'll take his
Olympic lifters can have knee issues too despite how strong they are if they continually train in poor biomechanical patterns.
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:21 PM   #22
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Re: Knees go in

I returned to dial back my comment but now you set it in stone.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:34 AM   #23
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Re: Knees go in

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watch his knees...he must be going too heavy

people have different movement patterns...I'll take his
No offense but people also have inefficient movement patterns and incorrect movement patterns. Knees going in on a squat puts your knee in a very dangerous position no matter who it is.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:37 PM   #24
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Re: Knees go in

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Does your knees come in only when u go heavy?

If so, you are going too heavy.
So how do I get to where I can go heavy?
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:06 PM   #25
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Your max squat 300lb

Does your knees come in when you squat 200lb, 225lb, 250lb, 275lb, etc.? Where does it start? Going "Heavy" is all relative. If your knees are fine at 250lb but starts collapsing in at 260lb, then your "Heavy" squat is around that 250lb.

So you might have to go lighter and work your way up to a 300lb max with good form. Trust me, the PRs will come faster if you focus on form. Most people want to jump the gun and Pull or Squat a PR. But during these efforts their form breaks. You might have succeeded in moving the weight up, but it doesn't count in my gym.

And the World Record videos are great but he is willing to do what it takes to get that record, even if it might blow his knees out. CrossFitters goals are not the same as specialists.
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Old 11-01-2010, 08:28 AM   #26
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Re: Knees go in

+1 to that Mark.

Always drop down to where you can maintain good form and work up from there.

If you can lift that weight multiple times its better to do that to increase good motor patterns anyway.... then since you already have the musculature to lift heavier you will usually shoot up pretty quickly and then PR easily because good form is superior for lifting heavier weight.
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Your max squat 300lb

Does your knees come in when you squat 200lb, 225lb, 250lb, 275lb, etc.? Where does it start? Going "Heavy" is all relative. If your knees are fine at 250lb but starts collapsing in at 260lb, then your "Heavy" squat is around that 250lb.

So you might have to go lighter and work your way up to a 300lb max with good form. Trust me, the PRs will come faster if you focus on form. Most people want to jump the gun and Pull or Squat a PR. But during these efforts their form breaks. You might have succeeded in moving the weight up, but it doesn't count in my gym.

And the World Record videos are great but he is willing to do what it takes to get that record, even if it might blow his knees out. CrossFitters goals are not the same as specialists.
Ok you are right on board with me then. Honestly I though you were just giving me crap. I'm with you on good form all the way, that is the reason for the post to begin with.

I have started some ''extra'' work to strenthen my glutes and I squat last week as heavy as I could with good form to the point to where my knees wanted to go in, but I was able to keep them out. Right on that spot of it failing but didn't.

Pr for pr sake. I don't just go for pr. It is always in my mind to beat my times and weights, but if form becomes an issue I'm not so proud to call it. I'm training, and I don't want to train bad form or push to injury for a pr.
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Old 11-01-2010, 02:23 PM   #28
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I didn't mean for it to sound like I was giving you crap.

But my general rule is, Kness go in = going to heavy.
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