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Old 04-15-2004, 06:50 PM   #1
Larry Cook
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anybody familiar with this stuff?
other than multi-vitamins, I've never been much of a supplement guy ... just looked interesting.

http://www.brainquicken.com/kill_speed.asp
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Old 04-16-2004, 03:43 AM   #2
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I would recommend increased omega-3 intake as a first line of approach for increased cerebral functioning.

Cant comment on the above...except... 'Wouldnt touch it with a barge pole!'
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Old 04-16-2004, 06:44 AM   #3
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Hi Larry,

I did some digging (attempted to anyway). The only thing I could come up with that wasn't an advertisement was a brief discussion of it on another message board: http://www.fortifiediron.net/invisio...howtopic=10467. According to the post 2 tablets contain:

Niacinamide--- 10mg
Vitamin B-69Pyridoxine HCl)--- 12.5mg
Folic Acid--- 200mcg
Vitamin B-12------- 500mcg
Pantothenic Acid9Calcium pantothenate---- 20mg

Propietary Cognamine Complex: 805mg
Cordyceps Sinesis
Choline Bitrate
L-Glutamine
L-Tyrosine
Salix Alba
Phosphatidylserine
Ciwujia
2-Dimethylaminoethanol
Salsburia Adiantifolia
Vinpocetine
Huperzine A
Paulllinia Cupana---- 405mg
Alphs-Lipoic Acid-- 15mg

Unfortunately, I don't know what most of this stuff does. Maybe I need to increase my omega-3 intake.

Ryan

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Old 04-16-2004, 07:14 PM   #4
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Actually, that was the subject of an earlier thread from last June . . . the thread was about herbal supplements, Body Quicken comes into it about half way down . . .

http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/23/1161.html

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Old 04-16-2004, 08:07 PM   #5
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"You are right, caffeine is an alkaloid...the structure is not entirely unlike that of the DNA bases...I do no think this is a coincidence!

I was comped a 3 month supply of ciwijia and got nothing from is save stmach upset. Jarrow has a product Neuro Optimizer...very expensive but it does some cool stuff. Try 150-300mg of DMAE and a similar amount of coffee the next time you are trying for a max lift."

Robb this is something you quoted in another discussion on the link David gave.
Robb could you please give more information on how this works as I am very interested.

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Old 04-17-2004, 09:18 PM   #6
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I got a free sample of the stuff, oddly I never ended up taking it. I know a lot of muay thai and K-1 fighters swear by it, but who knows. I suppose it could "work", however it might be more of a placebo. There is also supposed to be some kind of formula specially made for "Combat Athletes" I think a company called ATX makes it. I know Pat Miletech, who was UFC champ and is a great trainer, endorses it. The whole thing seems pretty bogus to me, I think if most of these guys subscribed to sounds training and nutrition they'd be a lot further ahead.
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Old 04-19-2004, 07:38 AM   #7
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A combination of ginkgo, DMAE, and L-tyrosine worked very well for pre-workout focus and drive for me. Plus, at Beyond-a-century, it was very cheap. Now you can add nootropics like piracetem to that mix as well.

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Old 04-19-2004, 08:54 AM   #8
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EAS used to have a product - the name escapes me right now - with DMAE, L-tryosine and St. John's Wort. It worked, giving you a gentle sort of 'confidence'. Straight L-tyrosine seemed to have the same effect, for less money.
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Old 04-19-2004, 09:08 AM   #9
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This is a very common blend which incorperates neurotransmitter precursors, cerebro-vasodialators and acetylcholine re-uptake inhibitors. Low doses of these products (doses which do not wire and individual up...this varries greatly from person to person) I think could provide great neuroprotective effects. I think they can be of benefit when one is working the neurological aspects of strength but you burn out/down regulate receptors with these products very quickly.

Myron-
The action is essentially heightened neurological activity. Tinker with it but not too frequently.
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Old 04-19-2004, 09:53 AM   #10
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EAS's product is called "Power Drive" - Lincoln's description is right on - a subtle feeling of sharpness, confidence - without a jittery caffein buzz kind of effect. It's definitely cheaper to buy the raw ingredients. There's some debate about the St John's Wort's efficacy in the formula; some researchers (sorry I don't have the links here at work) claim it's counter-productive with the other products. I like it, anyhow.
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