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Old 03-20-2008, 12:04 PM   #1
Ian Jaeger
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what's the hop for?

OK, this may sounds stupid, but what's the purpose of the hop / stomp on cleans and snatches and such?

I've tried it with both, and don't really see a difference between with and without the hop - but all of the coached videos show it with the stomp - and quite often a loud stomp.

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Old 03-20-2008, 12:54 PM   #2
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Re: what's the hop for?

When you do heavy weights, you've got to leave the ground to:
1. Let you move your foot from the pull stance to the squat stance.
2. Let you have a split second to bring yourself under the bar.

When you're snatching 300 pounds, you've got to pull yourself under the bar, not it over you.


The stomp happens just because the quick foot movement, and the wooden soles of lifting shoes on wooden lifting platforms creates the loud thundercrack.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:22 PM   #3
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Re: what's the hop for?

Read up on cleans and snatches, follow Mike B's progressions, it will result in you having a stomp.
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:44 AM   #4
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Re: what's the hop for?

It's all about getting the bar as high as you can and then dropping into the hole like you were shot in the head!

Starting position has the feet closer together. Go to triple extension (ankles, knees, hips), shrug, then drop into a squat...the feet go 2" back and out to facilitate a deeper squat. The action of dropping and shifting the feet out slightly caused the stomp. This comes from standing on your toes at the height of triple extension, not from jumping. You could jump with light weight, you ain't jumping with heavier weight, your also not bending your arms.
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:07 PM   #5
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Re: what's the hop for?

Remember also that you're not just "dropping," you're actively pulling yourself under the bar. You need more speed than gravity alone can give you.
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:57 PM   #6
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Re: what's the hop for?

Don't hop. Don't think about hopping. Transition your feet from the pulling to receiving position as quickly and aggressively as possible with as little elevation as possible.
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Old 03-23-2008, 05:20 AM   #7
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Re: what's the hop for?

greg,

I like your avatar. it also goes well with this you can see in the photo that what is going to take place next as far as transitioning into the squat position and being under the bar.

oh how much weight is that?
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greg,

I like your avatar. it also goes well with this you can see in the photo that what is going to take place next as far as transitioning into the squat position and being under the bar.

oh how much weight is that?
Keep in mind when looking at that photo that I move backward 4-5 inches when I snatch - so for most people, that's not quite what the feet/legs should look like. That's me sliding my feet backward to get them under the rest of me when I receive.

That's 120 (264 lbs).
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:18 PM   #9
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Re: what's the hop for?

Sometimes I see guys do a little mini "donkey kick" back because, I assume, they think they need to be doing a stomp kick but the weight isn't heavy and the form isn't good. The Burgener videos are quite good at building a proper progression.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:40 AM   #10
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Re: what's the hop for?

There is a debate among OL coaches of whether or not teaching the donkey kick is effective. The reasoning behind coach the kick is that under max loads you'll be more able to "move your feet" I think it's overkill. You're technique with lighter percentages should mimic your technique with heavier loads. But that's just MHO.
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