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Old 11-21-2010, 09:17 PM   #21
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Re: For those that argue Westside is only for the advanced...

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So basically just follow the template in the Conjugate Method article? And how long should wods be? less than 20/15/10min?
No, that is not pure Westside which I made pretty clear in the article. What I am saying is that you should follow Westside to a T. Get Louie's Book of Methods so that you can understand. It will make you a MUCH faster and more explosive athlete.
 
Old 11-22-2010, 10:24 AM   #22
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Re: For those that argue Westside is only for the advanced...

So in your opinion,

is Westside barbell feasible on a commercial gym environment? (no boards/bands/etc.)


Before I dump $50.00 into another book, I'd like to know if it's something I can really use with the facilities I have available.
 
Old 11-22-2010, 11:02 AM   #23
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Re: For those that argue Westside is only for the advanced...

Boards are cheap, you can make your own out of scrap.

Louie and crew lifted without chains or bands for years and still did quite well. Really, too many beginners (to PL'ing or this style of training) worry too much about accommodating resistance and not enough about hammering out superior technique, IMO.
 
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Boards are cheap, you can make your own out of scrap.

Louie and crew lifted without chains or bands for years and still did quite well. Really, too many beginners (to PL'ing or this style of training) worry too much about accommodating resistance and not enough about hammering out superior technique, IMO.

I'm not "worried about" bands/boards/chains/etc.

I just want to make sure that if I drop $50 on a book, that I can do the program with the equipment I have available.
 
Old 11-22-2010, 11:39 AM   #25
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Re: For those that argue Westside is only for the advanced...

You can - you can also sub things for boards (telephone books, textbooks, find a scrap pile at a construction site...). And personally I would grab bands before chains when you get to that point. They're more versatile. There are plenty of places that sell offbrand bands now where you can get some at a reasonable price.
 
Old 11-22-2010, 04:13 PM   #26
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Re: For those that argue Westside is only for the advanced...

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I'm not "worried about" bands/boards/chains/etc.

I just want to make sure that if I drop $50 on a book, that I can do the program with the equipment I have available.
Keep in mind that there isn't a clearly laid out "the program". The Book of Methods has a lot of great stuff in there but, because it is a collection of articles that Louie wrote at different times, it's not laid out in a totally cohesive manner. A lot of the material is repeated and it's occasionally contradictory. I think some of this variance comes, too, from the fact that the program should be tailored for every lifter. Selected supplemental exercises, for example, will "depend on what your weakest point is or what adds to your squat and deadlift the most".
 
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Re: For those that argue Westside is only for the advanced...

Read the thread title, saw who the OP was, immediately thought "oh look, it's this thread again".

I may never understand how a man who deadlifts in the high 700s can continue to misunderstand (seemingly deliberately) what Mark Rippetoe (and by extension everyone who uses his terminology) means when he says things like "novice", "intermediate" and "advanced".
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Re: For those that argue Westside is only for the advanced...

Will it work for novices (experience or recovery based definition)? Sure, probably great if you have a good coach.

Will it work for better than SS for someone with zero experience, no knowledge/context of the sport of powerlifting, poor movement form, doesn't have a coach, is doing this on their own starting with a 135# or lower back squat in a commercial gym? I doubt it. SS is start to finish what to do for a newbie, including form in layman terms.
 
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Katherine,

You are WAAAYYYY too intelligent to make such a comment.
At this point, with this comment from the OP, I stopped reading this thread. Back to SS with my 2 16 year old experiments...
 
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So in your opinion,

is Westside barbell feasible on a commercial gym environment? (no boards/bands/etc.)


Before I dump $50.00 into another book, I'd like to know if it's something I can really use with the facilities I have available.


That's where I do it 90% of the time. The only thing I would suggest you buy is some bands. They are pretty cheap and are excellent tools.

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