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Old 05-17-2014, 08:57 AM   #1
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17 Years old, PR 200Lb Clean

Hey guys! Yesterday I managed to hit one of my long term goals of a 200Lb Clean. In the open last year, my PR was 125, so it's been a long road. I'm 160# right now and turned 17 about 2 months ago. I would love to hear any feedback you have!

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Old 05-18-2014, 06:55 PM   #2
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Re: 17 Years old, PR 200Lb Clean

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Hey guys! Yesterday I managed to hit one of my long term goals of a 200Lb Clean. In the open last year, my PR was 125, so it's been a long road. I'm 160# right now and turned 17 about 2 months ago. I would love to hear any feedback you have!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=e...&v=NmBTX25yoy8 (WFS)
All in all it wasn't a bad pull, Tristan. In my opinion, you should drop your butt some more and be more patient with that initial pull. Get to full extension, then be aggressive getting under that bar.

Coach Bergener has some excellent clips on youtube.....


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Old 05-18-2014, 09:10 PM   #3
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Re: 17 Years old, PR 200Lb Clean

Thanks Michael. I have trouble keeping my upper back tight at the start and that leads me into the second pull a little early. I'm trying to work on it but my upper back is really weak proportionately. I will try dropping my hips a touch as well too. Thanks!
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:39 AM   #4
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Re: 17 Years old, PR 200Lb Clean

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Thanks Michael. I have trouble keeping my upper back tight at the start and that leads me into the second pull a little early. I'm trying to work on it but my upper back is really weak proportionately. I will try dropping my hips a touch as well too. Thanks!
So, reading your own statement, how would you address fixing lagging upper back strength?
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:12 AM   #5
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Re: 17 Years old, PR 200Lb Clean

Well, that was definitely a max. Good work to catch it that low.

To work on your back, watch this video from Dimitri Klokov:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH2kwYiVgPU (wfs)
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Old 05-19-2014, 01:29 PM   #6
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So, reading your own statement, how would you address fixing lagging upper back strength?
I've been doing a substantial amount of Bent over Rows. As well as 3 Stop Pulls with my shoulders pulled back to recruit those muscles and strengthen the position. In addition, I'll throw in some higher rep sets of front squats, as those always tax my upper back pretty hard. Do you have any other ideas?
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I've been doing a substantial amount of Bent over Rows. As well as 3 Stop Pulls with my shoulders pulled back to recruit those muscles and strengthen the position. In addition, I'll throw in some higher rep sets of front squats, as those always tax my upper back pretty hard. Do you have any other ideas?
Snatch-grip deadlifts, snatch/clean high pulls, muscle cleans/snatches.
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Old 05-19-2014, 03:40 PM   #8
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I'm about to go into the LSUS 12 week Cycle for the second time, so there will definitely be a substantial amount of snatch grip deads, as well as muscle cleans and snatches.
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:10 AM   #9
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Re: 17 Years old, PR 200Lb Clean

Two questions (these ones should have been asked first):

Are you able to front squat as deep as you did to catch this clean while keeping a neutral spine?
Are you able to catch lighter weights as deep as you did with this one while keeping a neutral spine?

If the answer to one of these questions is "no", than you probably do not have a strength problem rather than a mobility problem.
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The answer to both of those questions is. I do all my squats to that depth with a neutral spine. That weight just basically crippled me, especially considering it was a PR Front Squat as well.
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