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Old 05-18-2005, 05:15 PM   #1
Bo Blakemore
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has anyone followed this? If so, what were your thoughts/opinions.

Recently bought a full set of kb's from Gill and looking to add some variety.
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Old 05-18-2005, 05:38 PM   #2
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I've done a lot of H2H stuff over the past year.

I wouldn't make it a primary method of working out (and its never been promoted as such) but its good for a number of reasons.

1. Active recovery - Its good fun and a few minutes of it is a great warm up to work out the kinks of the previous days WOD etc

2. Hand eye coordination - I'm a fair bit better at hand eye stuff like catching after my H2H practice. If you think wall ball builds accuracy then try a left hand flip to opposite palm catch.

3. Shock absorption - If you are into martial arts the ballistic loading and unloading of doing H2H with heavier KBs is a great way to learn about shock absorption and force redirection.

4. Cardio - Get a 16kg KB and get into the flow and this can be really tough cardio, no rest, no pauses plus its more fun than just doing endless swings.

5. killer party trick! - Behind the back pass, low flip to high catch, impress the kiddies and humble the pink dumbell curlers at the gym.

In summary - not a substitute for a killer WOD but a good addition in the strength/gymnastics crossover area.
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Old 05-18-2005, 06:11 PM   #3
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Hey Don,

What are some kettlebell books/dvd's you would recommend? I see Mahler and Cotter have new ones out as well as Maxwell and Pavel's. Are there any you highly recommend?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-18-2005, 06:34 PM   #4
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Bo

What do you want to use them for - MA, general conditioning, strength work....

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Old 05-18-2005, 06:38 PM   #5
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Which books and DVDs you should buy depends on what sort of kettlebell training you want to do.

Pavels original book and DVD "Russian Kettlebell Challenge" covers all the basics if you start with them then from there you can specialise later on

Mike Mahlers DVDs on MMA training and his one on size and strength are excellent for power and strength.

Steve Cotters DVDs teach a lot of Martial arts applications but i've only skimmed the second DVD so you might want to see if someone else has seen it in full.

Steve Maxwells DVDs are good for all round fitness, his circuits are much like some of the crossfit WODs

Jeff Martones H2H are obviously quite different but as explained above quite good.

There is also Pavels "More RKC" which is more basic drills and also "resilient" which is all rehab type stuff and in my opinion while good, it is a little pricey.
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Old 05-18-2005, 07:07 PM   #6
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Bill,

I'm looking for GPP. That may be why I look into your buddies (Maxwell). He just amazes me.

Don,

Thanks for the info. Like I said to Bill, I'm looking for GPP so Maxwells have an appeal to me. Thanks again.
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Old 05-18-2005, 09:22 PM   #7
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I like the H2H stuff a lot. Just flip and catches are cool. I find that I can do a pretty high volume of work H2H style and I really don't feel it till I put the bell down. Dan John has a theory on this, which I will paraphrase: you can play hard all day, but try to work or train that hard and you will fatigue rapidly.
It's essentially gymnastics with a kettlebell.

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Old 05-19-2005, 12:02 AM   #8
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I think the H2H stuff was the most "exciting" element of your KB workshop, Don. It's because of the "party trick" thing, I suppose; it's fun.

If you want to give this stuff a go, though, get a big patch of grass to play on that you're not particularly attached to; because you'll be digging holes everywhere.

I would think that the between the legs, around the back type stuff would be good for a warmup/down. It gets you moving in a bunch of different directions using most of your body.
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Old 05-19-2005, 03:55 AM   #9
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Jeff was my SRKC at the cert and me doing the over the shoulder flip on the last day.

Bo - Maxwell's is the only one that is actually a circuit. Pavel's is "instructional" and Cotter's are absolutely amazing for specific application to MA training. Mike's are good if you wanted to use KBs exclusively for all weightlifting - which obviously we don't do. Jeff's are just plain fun - which is not a bad thing as Tyler points out.
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