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Old 05-08-2005, 02:28 PM   #1
Eugene R. Allen
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No Ron, not that kind of drink, water, Gatorade that sort of thing. After I got back from an early morning callout at 0515 this morning I got on my Computrainer and did a 40 mile ride in 2:32, took a short break, ran 5 miles in 41:20 and then sat in my infrared sauna at 142 degrees for 45 minutes. During that nearly 4 hours of training I drank 121.5 ounces of fluids and ate half a ham sandwich and a Powerbar. That was 16 oz of hot tea, 24 oz of water, 24 oz of Gatorade, 20 oz of SoBe Elixir, 15.5 oz Arizona Green Tea with Ginger and honey, 11 oz Atkins Advantage shake and 11 oz of Kirkland weight loss shake. Just shy of a gallon. I attached a photo of what that looks like and though it looks like a lot, it's only a quart an hour which is right at what most of the literature I've read from triathlon sources recommends.

Handsome Rob...any guidance here? Is it your input too that a quart an hour is about right? Of course sweat rate, temperature, relative humidity, intensity of exercise, acclimation to the environment and probably other factors I've not thought of come into play here too, but does a quart an hour make sense to you?

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Old 05-08-2005, 04:42 PM   #2
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I don't drink enough, I'll tell you that. For whatever reason, I just never seem to be all that thirsty. I really need to develop the habit of drinking water regardless.
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Old 05-08-2005, 07:15 PM   #3
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I shoot for 128oz of water/day but I don't really keep track. As long as I get 64oz I'm happy. I make a conscious effort to have a glass/jug of water w/me at all times. Doing this ensures an adequate intake.

Putting habits in place to drink water has really helped me out. I automatically drink 2 glasses in the morning when I wake up. I also drink a glass of water immediately upon entering a house (mine, a friends, whatever).
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Old 05-09-2005, 04:57 AM   #4
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My goal is a gallon of H2o. I've been very good at getting at least 3/4 of that or I notice it big time. I have a 24oz glass at work - I put 1/2 my creastack in it ithe morning and 1/2 afternoon -that's 48oz easy. That and a couple protein shakes. Usually 16oz during the workout and 16 right after. The rest is cake.
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Old 05-09-2005, 06:52 AM   #5
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Eugene, on a REST day I drink close to a gallon! I break it into ~22 oz doses. 1 bottle when I wake up, one on the drive to work or when I arrive. 20 oz. of green tea mid-morning, and another water bottle. By noon I have about 80 Oz. done. I'll drink one before/during lunch and 2 more before dinner. One at dinner and one before bed. On workout days add another 60 oz. or so.

I guess I drink a lot. Of course, I live in SE GA, which is sunny, hot and humid. I've been drinking this way ever since I did a peace keeping stint in the middle east in the mid-1980's. My assignment now allows me to hit the head every 90 minutes, minimum, so it's OK. When I go back to the field, I'll have to plan accordingly for surveillances, etc.

One weird thing: on a really hot day when I am wilting, I will drink 2 tbsp. of apple cider vinegar in a 16 oz. glass of water. Perks you right up and erases the thirst. Funny thing is, I hate any kind of pickled foods...
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Old 05-09-2005, 07:46 AM   #6
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Daniel - apple cider vinegar? Where in the world did you come up with that? Do you have any idea what the vineagar does for you, how it "perks" you up? I am intrigued by the erases the thirst idea and if that is actually a good thing. Might it be dangerous to get rid of your thirst and chance not drinking enough?

Yes, on a rest DAY I can see drinking close to a gallon, but not in 4 hours. It does sound as though what I drank was not all that much even though it looked like a lot to me. Thanks for the input, maybe I need to make myself pee more. Clear and copius.
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Old 05-09-2005, 08:05 AM   #7
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Eugene - I only use a real apple cider vinegar with the "mother" (a funky pulp). A friend who is a Chiropractor adivsed using it for sore throats as a gargle and it worked great. Then I got a small book about it by Dr. Paul Bragg. Dr. Bragg is the man who influenced Jack LaLanne at 17 to start living a healthy life. LaLanne was a mess up to that point. Bragg is now dead, but his daughter runs the business and you can ususally find BRAGG'S products at GNC. I go through one 24 oz bottle every 6 months or so.

I don't worry about it slaking my thirst because I'm just programmed to drink a lot at this point.
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Old 05-09-2005, 09:39 AM   #8
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Eug,
Stop it!
FWIW, I too drink at least a gallon a day during the week. Spread out through all my activity, it's not too hard. I also drink about 6 cups of coffee (total around 30 oz.) each day, so I'm a peein' machine (I'll probably get a hand slapping for that). My problem is on the weekends when I'm home more. My water tends to come 8-16 oz. at a time then, but it's mixed in with other "recreational" drinks. Those don't start until the early evening/dinner time.

One intersting note; I mentioned before that I was posting/trolling on the Don Lemmon board (he's a self-procalimed trainer to the stars, married to former porn actress Asia Carrera) and he recommends for all his "clients" one oz of water per pound of body weight. So, for me, that's 215 oz. per day (if I followed his advice, and I don't)!! A gallon is hard to take, but 2? I would never go more than 10 yards away from the nearest rest room for fear of explosion. Of course, this advice is from the guy who told me my knees would quit on me when I'm 60 if I did squats past paralell, so take that FWIW!!
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Old 05-12-2005, 06:04 PM   #9
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I don't drink enough water either...but when I have a cold - now there's an easy one! As a sore throat/nasal congestant remedy Apple Cider Vinegar, honey and a little black pepper works pretty darn well - especially if you heat it up a little. Back on the prairie, Mum used to force it on us, but it seemed to really make a difference.
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Old 05-13-2005, 09:54 AM   #10
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I think I drank too much last night...final night of Graduation Week before everyone's parents arrive. Oh wait, we're talking about water. Yeah, I drink alot of that....6-7 25oz bottles/day.

Right about now, I'm glad that today is a rest day. Oy!
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