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Old 02-23-2012, 03:35 PM   #1
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deadlift dilemma

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The gym i workout in only has hexagonal plates which really isnt an issue except for when im deadlifting.When i reset the weight in the middle of the set preparing for the next rep sometimes the barbell moves forward on one side and is kind of diagonal.I loose precious seconds realigning the barbell and it bogs me down especially during heavy sets because those precious seconds make the difference between a successful lift and a failed one.

Your thoughts please....and its the only gym near my home that has standard weightlifting equipment and that i can afford so switching gyms for now isnt an option.
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:13 PM   #2
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Re: deadlift dilemma

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Insight needed,

The gym i workout in only has hexagonal plates which really isnt an issue except for when im deadlifting.When i reset the weight in the middle of the set preparing for the next rep sometimes the barbell moves forward on one side and is kind of diagonal.I loose precious seconds realigning the barbell and it bogs me down especially during heavy sets because those precious seconds make the difference between a successful lift and a failed one.

Your thoughts please....and its the only gym near my home that has standard weightlifting equipment and that i can afford so switching gyms for now isnt an option.
I had this exact problem at the globo I trained in. It's absolutely infuriating. Whoever invented them needs to be shot.

And it's why I saved up and splashed the cash and bought my own gear (bar, squat stands, lots and lots of plates). I worked overtime for two months over Christmas but my god, is it worth it!!
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:54 PM   #3
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Re: deadlift dilemma

Probably not the response you were looking for, but I've more or less given up deadlifting aside from heavy singles (>90%). I recover faster and get more of a stimulus, I feel, from things like box squats and good mornings. In fact, Louie talks pretty often about how little his big box squatters deadlift and still set PRs when they do. I also just read a bit on Outlaw Crossfit about a strength cycle they programmed which was squat heavy and no deadlifting- they set deadlift PRs.
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Old 02-24-2012, 05:54 AM   #4
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Probably not the response you were looking for, but I've more or less given up deadlifting aside from heavy singles (>90%). I recover faster and get more of a stimulus, I feel, from things like box squats and good mornings. In fact, Louie talks pretty often about how little his big box squatters deadlift and still set PRs when they do. I also just read a bit on Outlaw Crossfit about a strength cycle they programmed which was squat heavy and no deadlifting- they set deadlift PRs.
Th only probelm with that is that most gym dont have the expert knowlege or the equipment to train like they do up there at westide to get those massive deadlifts without having to train the lift too often, they use all sorts of gagets up there bands chains blocks, mathamatics and all.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:29 AM   #5
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Re: deadlift dilemma

I never missed a heavy deadlift from having to take a couple of seconds to readjust the bar before starting the lift. Since you said finding another gym is not possible, you'll just have to deal with it. Or suggest to the gym owner to get some round plates.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:16 AM   #6
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If you do a month on the conjugate method (or at least 1 max rep squat attempt per week) with box squat, front squats off a low box, good morning, and free squat- I think you'd be surprised at your results in the deadlift.

Bands are available, and very affordable, check out EliteFTS. The programming and math is available open source, for free, thanks to Louie Simmons, Dave Tate, Jim Wendler, Chris Mason, etc hundreds of articles published online. It's really not a method that is that far out of reach- in fact, it's much easier to set up speed benching and box squatting in a globo gym than it is to set up for muscle ups etc...

And as a caveat to my last post, aside from the heavy singles (which are probably once every 2 months or so) speed singles (1x6-8) are also a big help, but very easy to do with octagonal plates.
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:38 AM   #7
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Re: deadlift dilemma

I also have dealt with this before. While it is inconvenient it is not the end of the world. My solution was just to put up with it. You could also do touch an go on anything above 3 reps. Then you don't have to constantly re-set. Unless you are looking for a reason to give up deadlifting...in that case you can just do what others here have suggested
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:45 PM   #8
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If you do a month on the conjugate method (or at least 1 max rep squat attempt per week) with box squat, front squats off a low box, good morning, and free squat- I think you'd be surprised at your results in the deadlift.

Bands are available, and very affordable, check out EliteFTS. The programming and math is available open source, for free, thanks to Louie Simmons, Dave Tate, Jim Wendler, Chris Mason, etc hundreds of articles published online. It's really not a method that is that far out of reach- in fact, it's much easier to set up speed benching and box squatting in a globo gym than it is to set up for muscle ups etc...

And as a caveat to my last post, aside from the heavy singles (which are probably once every 2 months or so) speed singles (1x6-8) are also a big help, but very easy to do with octagonal plates.

Good advice....im currently doing madcow so might give this a go when im done with my current cycle
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I also have dealt with this before. While it is inconvenient it is not the end of the world. My solution was just to put up with it. You could also do touch an go on anything above 3 reps. Then you don't have to constantly re-set. Unless you are looking for a reason to give up deadlifting...in that case you can just do what others here have suggested
Reason to quit deadlifting? .....your funny. I have been doing touch and gos to remedy this issue. I just wanted to try and focus abit on exploding from a static stop on every rep but seems like it wont work with those plates.

Anyway thanks guys for the input! Aluta Continua!
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:54 PM   #10
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I had this exact problem at the globo I trained in. It's absolutely infuriating. Whoever invented them needs to be shot.

And it's why I saved up and splashed the cash and bought my own gear (bar, squat stands, lots and lots of plates). I worked overtime for two months over Christmas but my god, is it worth it!!
LOL......thats my next project....Vision 2013!
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