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Old 06-03-2008, 08:37 PM   #1
Howard Wilcox
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Help with summary of Pendlay WL bars

Hello,

I've been searching trying to figure out all the difference between the various Pendlay bars...but there seems to be some confusion (perhaps just on my part). Can you help me fill in the following items:

crossfit bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- 28.5mm
rings in knurling -- one

economy bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- 28.5
rings in knurling -- ??

rogue bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- ??
rings in knurling -- two

pendlay bar:
center knurling -- ??
color -- black
diameter -- 28mm
rings in knurling -- one

pendlay elite bar:
center knurling -- yes (though I've read he can take it off if requested)
color -- automotive chrome
diameter -- 28mm
rings in knurling -- one


I have read that the economy bar is the same as the crossfit bar...but if that is the case, why would anyone pay for the economy bar ($70 more). Similarly, the rogue fitness bar seems to be priced like the economy bar (though a little cheaper) but it has two sets of rings in the knurling which is interesting (says one for WL and one for powerlifting). Not sure if others have that or not...though I know the crossfit bar doesn't (since I have one).


If you have the facts on any of these bars, please help me fill in the information.

Thank you,

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Old 06-04-2008, 08:13 AM   #2
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Re: Help with summary of Pendlay WL bars

I recently purchased the Pendlay 20KG bar, mine has no center knurl.
I was expecting it to have center knurl, but I prefer no center knurl.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:23 AM   #3
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Re: Help with summary of Pendlay WL bars

Thanks Paul. Yeah, I kind of prefer the lack of a center knurl too.


So, here's the table with that info added:


crossfit bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- 28.5mm
rings in knurling -- one

economy bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- 28.5
rings in knurling -- ??

rogue bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- ??
rings in knurling -- two

pendlay bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- 28mm
rings in knurling -- one

pendlay elite bar:
center knurling -- yes
color -- automotive chrome
diameter -- 28mm
rings in knurling -- one



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Old 06-04-2008, 08:58 AM   #4
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Re: Help with summary of Pendlay WL bars

The economy bar has only one ring in the knurling.
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Old 06-05-2008, 06:08 PM   #5
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Re: Help with summary of Pendlay WL bars

I was also researching pendlay bar threads recently. I want to get at least one bar that is the best of the best to train on and am convinced that pendlay is the way to go. I am having trouble deciding between the Pendlay Bar and the Pendlay Elite Bar though.

The Pendlay Elite has dual snap rings for safety purposes, nice but not necessary in my opinion. It has center knurling on the bar which I am not a fan of (although you can have it removed but then it would be "less sticky" on your shoulders than the Pendlay bar because of the coating the Pendlay Bar has). I have read they are both made of the same steel. So far the Pendlay bar is winning out in my book.

Now for the last difference that has me really curious, high quality brass bushings v.s. high quality needle bearings. Glenn has said in the past that high quality brass bushings are actually more durable than needle bearings. I also have read that needle bearings may spin ever so slightly better right out of the gate, though very few people if any could notice the difference. However, if the bushings are more durable it would be logical to assume that at some point the bar with the bushings would spin ever so slightly better than the one with the needle bearings. This is of course assuming proper maintenance on both. When would the bar with bushings pass up the bar with bearings, I don't know 1 year, 5, 10, more? I actually plan on calling Glenn tomorrow with this concern.

On a preliminary basis anyway, it would seem to me that without regard to your preference on coating, center knurling, dual snap rings - It could be concluded that the pendlay elite would spin slightly better out of the gate but the pendlay bar would stay truer to its original spin there for spinning slightly better than the pendlay elite after several years.
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Old 06-05-2008, 06:18 PM   #6
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Re: Help with summary of Pendlay WL bars

That's good stuff Steve. I hope you report back when you talk with him. Or point him to this thread, he might post.

I don't like the center knurling and have other bars for squatting anyway. I already have a problem with cleans hitting my clavicle.

I do like the chrome though, very pretty.


It sounds like the pendlay is a best buy and I may reward myself with one after working on the olympic lifts for a while.

Oh, the table is full now...though still not sure about the difference between the crossfit bar and economy bar.


crossfit bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- 28.5mm
rings in knurling -- one

economy bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- 28.5
rings in knurling -- one

rogue bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- 28.5mm
rings in knurling -- two

pendlay bar:
center knurling -- no
color -- black
diameter -- 28mm
rings in knurling -- one

pendlay elite bar:
center knurling -- yes
color -- automotive chrome
diameter -- 28mm
rings in knurling -- one



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Old 06-05-2008, 06:20 PM   #7
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Re: Help with summary of Pendlay WL bars

Why don't you guys like center knurling? Helps for squats, SDHP, turkish getups, one-handed snatches, close-grip bench...
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Old 06-05-2008, 06:24 PM   #8
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Re: Help with summary of Pendlay WL bars

Hey Brandon,

I don't like it since I have other bars for those (well, I don't do TGU with a barbell...perhaps I should).

On the clean, the bar often hits me in the clavicle part that pokes out (one sides seems to protrude more than the other) and I think knurling would make it much worse. Of course, I could be doing them wrong.


I also think it looks nice and clean, pardon the pun.

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Old 06-05-2008, 06:48 PM   #9
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Well... if the bar's smacking you in the clavicle when you clean, I don't think a smooth bar smacking you in the clavicle's going to make it much more comfortable.
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:56 PM   #10
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Re: Help with summary of Pendlay WL bars

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Why don't you guys like center knurling? Helps for squats, SDHP, turkish getups, one-handed snatches, close-grip bench...
Squats are more comfortable to me with a bar that does not have center knurling and is coated to provide traction. All those other exercises are more balance issues than grip strength except maybe SDHP (but I don't notice slippage issues with the coated bars). Depending on the bar the center knurling can really bloody up your shins during deads.
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